Posted on 11/30/2011 11:38:02 AM PST by ReformationFan
And apparently, if you are angry with another person, you are guilty of murder.
Mithra along with all pagan religions are based in individual spirituality with a savior and that the flesh and acts of the flesh are of no consequence. However, according to YHVH, the only thing that is based on individuality is final judgment when we all will stand before Him and give account for ourselves one by one. All things the flesh does affects the entire society. Those actions bring either blessings or curses to the entire society as well as our individual lives.(Dt 28; Joshua 7)
Take for example a person that has aids, it does not just affect that one person, it affects many for generations. Torah that came to us in the flesh as Yah’shua Messiah teaches us that disease is the result of sin(John 5:13-15) and Scripture tells us that sin is the transgression of Torah.(1 John 3:4)
When Yah’shua said in Mt 22:40 that all the law & prophets hang on Dt 6:5 & Lev 19:18, the word ‘law’ that was translated into Greek is “Torah” aka “Moses” according to Yah’shua Messiah thus it is according to Moses that all sin will be judged.
Following Torah brings both blessings & curses(Dt 28-30). Blessings for those that follow it and curses for those that don't. For the life of me I can not understand why nearly 2000 yrs ago the doctrine of Christendom chose to bring curses instead of blessing to its ecclesia and why the supposed learned theology scholars continue to hide the truth and teach that which curses rather than that which blesses.
Didn’t Jesus declare all the laws had to be followed?
No, it is those who do not study to show themselves approved who are the ones of misunderstanding. Blessings that come from following Torah are for all mankind. Yah’shua never taught that the dietary laws were abolished as these instructions are vital in obtaining the health related blessings one receives from following them. Yah’shua rebuked the rabbinic oral law of hand-washing, not the law about what is food and what is not food.
Mt 15:1 Then the scribes and Pharisees who were from Jerusalem came to Jesus, saying, 2 “Why do Your disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat bread.”
3 He(Yah'shua) answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, saying, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ 5 But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God”— 6 then he need not honor his father or mother.’ Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. 7 Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:
8 ‘ These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
9 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”
10 When He had called the multitude to Himself, He said to them, “Hear and understand: 11 Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.” 12 Then His disciples came and said to Him, “Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?”
13 But He(Yah'shua) answered and said, “Every plant which My heavenly Father has not planted will be uprooted. 14 Let them alone. They are blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch.”
Rabbinic oral law says that unwashed hands defile food, however Yah’shua said it is the words that come out of ones mouth that defile. Also, if Yah’shua & his disciples were eating anything other than what Torah defines as food, Yah’shua would have been disqualified as Messiah as the Messiah never broke even the least of his Father's commandments let alone teach anyone else to break them.
Can you, using Scripture ALONE, define what food is?
small point of correction - Jesus is the second person of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit is the third person.
but the point is correct, the whole Bible is the word of God, since the Holy Spirit is the author.
And that..was beautiful truth perfectly articulated.
foreknowledge does not foreapproval...we have a free will and we are therefore responsible for our actions. The fact that God knows what we will do, does not mean that He approves of it!!!
The Old Covenant included the Ten Commandments, the civil laws and the priestly laws. The New Testament actually validates the Ten Commandments, but the rest of the Old Testament Law has not been validated. At the heart of the Law was the temple and the Levitical priesthood chosen to offer animal sacrifices. Obviously, today it is impossible to obey the part of the Law that requires the temple and sacrifices. The Council of Jerusalem (Acts 15) established that Gentile believers were not bound by the civil and priestly laws.
No the question doesn’t lead to second guessing God. It’s just question to you not god. Of course it doesn’t matter, but I am politely asking your opinion. Isn’t that one of the reasons for forums?
Why do you think God wanted to teach Job such a lesson?
How do you explain God knowing something will happen and being incapable of being wrong? If God knows something will happen doesn’t it have to happen? After all, He knows the time of our death doesn’t He? We don’t have any control over that, do we?
How do you explain God knowing something will happen and being incapable of being wrong? If God knows something will happen doesn’t it have to happen? After all, He knows the time of our death doesn’t He? We don’t have any control over that, do we?
Me either...except that I have never broken any rules or denigrated any group of people, faiths or beliefs. I just ask questions, mostly about why someone believes as they do.
So far I favor Cain, believe strongly in states rights, strongly support the 2nd amend and pro-capitol punishment.
Better?
So it was to teach him a lesson. Ok thanks
Did you read Post 39?
The Word is indeed quite plain about sexual sin. Those holding the truth in ungodliness will find out the error of their ways sooner or later.
**If we confess Jesus as God, the third Person of the Trinity....**
I thought trinitarians believed that the Son is the ‘second person’ of the trinity. Did the the coequal, coeternal Holy Ghost get moved up to second place? If so, on which lap?
I believe that Jesus Christ is God because of the eternal Spirit, which is the Father in him (John 4:24).
Your questions have a motive other than wanting to engage in conversations with people or become more edified.
What do mean by bearing in mind...? Our free will choice could never be anything other than what God knows it will be, could it? And He knows the future too?
So why do you think God creates those He knows will sin?
You’re right about that last para. I misread it.
Yes, I didn’t ask God, and I’m aware of the outcome and benefits of the story. I asked you why you think God saw fit to put Job through all that? Just to teach a lesson
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