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[jagusafr]

I wear a simple James Avery cross that I’ve worn for 35 years. I rarely take it off, but it’s not because I think it protects me from harm or would make God mad. It is, for me, a symbol of the sacrifice that bought me and gave me eternal life. It is also, frankly, advertising: I have had a number of conversations about Christ begin after someone remarked on the cross I wear.

I have great trouble equating a symbol of the instrument of my Savior’s torture and death standing empty because He is risen, with a garment that is completely unsupported by Scripture - that actually hearkens back to when “obey the rules” was what people thought made them right with God. Doesn’t mean I don’t love Mormons - in fact, I’ve only ever met one Mormon I didn’t like, and all the Mormons I know in the Air Force are upstanding examples of what it means to serve. People can be good citizens and good neighbors and still be misled.

Colonel, USAFR

[jagusafr]

“I know that Jesus Christ is my Savior. I am not ignorant of His Infinite Atonement for me and for all mankind. I love Him.”

Amen. So strip the rest of the trappings out as unnecessary distractions.

[netmilsmom]

Well for the Jews, wearing the tzitzit is commanded in Deuteronomy 22:12: “You shall make yourself twisted threads, on the four corners of your garment with which you cover yourself.”

Personally, if I were Jewish, I would do what is commanded.

For the Mormon, this is from the article...
“Garments are a symbolic gesture of the promises that Mormons have made to God”

Perhaps some may have a problem with this. It isn’t a “right with God” situation from what I can see, but rather a remembrance of what one vowed. More like a wedding ring or a pledge pin. It’s a personal devotion and should not be looked down upon just because I don’t follow it.
Afterall, it isn’t something that one puts out there for everyone to see.

[HollyB]

Amen to your post.

[Vendome]

I got no problem with the under garments and some friends explained what wearing them meant in their lives.

My friend just passed away and I don’t step up to open caskets but several friends talked about the apron that was placed on her.

Perhaps you could post an article explaining burial rituals?

Thnx.

[Osage Orange]

Unzipping one’s dogma and swinging it around in an obnoxious superiority dance, is not.

ROFLOL!!!!

[pennyfarmer]

The Lord God is enabled to grant promised blessings, fulfilling His side of the temple covenants.

This one concerns me deeply. God is not in any mans debt. It troubles me when people think that when they do good works that God is obligated to reward them. We are all sinners and guilty of the whole law. Jesus has paid that debt for us which gives us freedom in Christ.

No one can keep the law, so when people claim they keep all the commandments they don't understand what Christ laid out. Jesus comdemned even the mere thought of sin and thereby made the commandments that much more strict. Understand that God cannot be in the presence of ANY sin not even 1 part per billion without just punishment. Mormons believing that their good works are justification are sorley misled. Mormons need to seriously study what that means, your salvation depends on it.

[Saundra Duffy]

“Perhaps some may have a problem with this. It isn’t a ‘right with God’ situation from what I can see, but rather a remembrance of what one vowed. More like a wedding ring or a pledge pin. It’s a personal devotion and should not be looked down upon just because I don’t follow it.
Afterall, it isn’t something that one puts out there for everyone to see.”

Thank you.

[Saundra Duffy]

“So strip the rest of the trappings out as unnecessary distractions.”

No thanks. They mean something very sacred to me.

[Osage Orange]

better Christians you will not find on the face of the earth than the Belizean Christians

Interesting for a couple reasons.....

Apparently you know....ALL Christians. Yeah right!!!! LOL!!!

And secondly....what about mormons?

I think you've slipped up here....You all want to be called Christians. But you don't think of yourselves as Christian.

Of course...I've known that for decades. But it's just interesting to see you admit it....unintentionally.

[greyfoxx39]

People who’d never say something crass or insensitive about Jews feel just fine attacking Mormons.

Perhaps it's because mormon leaders and members have "bashed" Christians and Christianity since the very founding of the mormon church.

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Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls.”

- Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, see pp. 45-46
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"...the Book of Mormon remains secure, unchanged and unchangeable, ...But with the Bible it was not and is not so....it was once in the sole and exclusive care and custody of an abominable organization [Christianity], founded by the devil himself, likened prophetically unto a great whore, whose great aim and purpose was to destroy the souls of men in the name of religion. In these hands it ceased to be the book it once was."

- Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, The Joseph Smith Translation, pp. 12, 13
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Brother Taylor has just said that the religions of the day were hatched in hell. The eggs were laid in hell, hatched on its borders, and then kicked on to the earth."

- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 6, p. 176
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"With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world."

- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p. 199
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"The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God"

- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p. 171

[Osage Orange]

Saundra Duffy is a Mormon and she stands by her faith!

Well Saundra..do you believe the following:

1) The Bible is the inspired word of God

2) Mormonism is in conflict with historic Christianity

3) It is truth that sets us free (John 8:32)

Ten important questions that need answers (please check all quotes to be sure they are correct):

1) Joseph Smith said: “..the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book.” (Introduction to Book of Mormon). What are these precepts?

2) Why do the doctrines in the Book of Mormon conflict with some of the doctrines in the D&C? (i.e. Jacob 2:23-28 and D&C 132:38-39)

3) Why would a true prophet of God claim: “I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I.” History of the Church, Vol.6, p.408-409).

4) Why did Mormonism practice blood atonement and Utah have the death penalty by firing squad for many years? (Doctrines of Salvation, Vol.1, p.136)

5) Why are some sins not covered by the blood of Jesus? (Journal of Discourses, Vol.3, p.247; Vol.4, p.219; Doctrines of Salvation, Vol.1, p.133-134)

6) How could God, the Creator, have been equal to His creation by being at one time a mere man? (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.345-346)

7) Is it necessary to have the “passport” of Joseph Smith in order to enter the celestial kingdom of God? (Journal of Discourses, Vol.7, p.289)

8) Is it true that Heavenly Father has a father, a grandfather, etc.? (The Seer, p.132)

9) Can anyone obtain the celestial kingdom without being perfect? (Book of Mormon Student Manual, p.303)

10) How could the law of man override the law of God in regards to polygamy? (Journal of Discourses, Vol.11, p.269)

[greyfoxx39]

By the way, YWAM did not allow Mormons or Catholics to join up in their organization nor Jews unless you were Messianic Jew.

Gee..is that kind of like the way no one is allowed into a mormon temple without being found "worthy"...even parents of a couple being married there? Shocking!

[Lx]

I didn’t read it in the article you posted but is it OK to remove the garment when showering? They only mention swimming, using the bathroom and intimacy. Does the bathroom part also mean showers?

[Lx]

Well, G_D was pretty specific in what you had to wear in order to get into the Holy of Holys.

[greyfoxx39]

This one concerns me deeply. God is not in any mans debt. It troubles me when people think that when they do good works that God is obligated to reward them.

I find that the belief that God is actually "bound" by some manmade rituals in a mormon temple to be ridiculous. In order to take part in these rituals, one must be found "by men" to be worthy.

If God wanted to be bound to a covenant with man, He wouldn't require the covenant to be something that is fashioned from the mind/hand of man. He could simply use his Heavenly ZOT!

[netmilsmom]

(I borrowed that from another more humorous and brilliant FReeper)

[gemoftheocean]

‘One of the reasons I became an Atheist was seeing the constant bickering among religious people about who was absolutely right and who was absolutely wrong. So I long ago came to the conclusion that either they are all right or none of them are right. ;

I think you aren’t being totally logical here. They can’t ALL be right, some having diametrically opposed views. There is the possibility, logically, that they may all be wrong. But you leave out the possibility that ONE of them is right.

[CommerceComet]

Well, G_D was pretty specific in what you had to wear in order to get into the Holy of Holys.

Those restrictions were for the priests because they alone were allowed access to the Holy of Holys. Christians hold that those restrictions of attire and access were lifted when the veil of the temple was torn at the cruxification of Jesus Christ (Matthew 28:51). It was part of the shadow system which was cast aside with the arrival of the Messiah who was the reality behind those shadows.

The only attire I need to approach God's throne is the blood of Christ.

[pennyfarmer]

Well, G_D was pretty specific in what you had to wear in order to get into the Holy of Holys.

That was old testement vs. new testement.