Posted on 11/03/2011 7:29:48 AM PDT by marshmallow
You should be ashamed at yourself for posting this. Ask for it to be taken down.
I would be as offend if someone posted a Catholic bashing article.
“What do we have to do to put your in this car today?” Puddy to Jerry.
I think it's an excellent article which raises some pertinent questions which few if any have attempted to address.
Be my guest.
How would I as a Protestant know when to return?
I've twice asked you to retract this. Maybe if you pray about it first.
ROFL!! Protestants NEVER do that. /exrreme dreipping sarcasm
Moving on though, you set up this scenario of a power struggle Shammai/Hillel, but according to my Bible Jesus had very few friends (Jew or Gentile) at the end. If I say that sinful man nailed Jesus to the cross, I'm on solid Biblical ground. If I say it was an intermurial rivalry, I have to stray from the Scriptures.
Going back to my question asking why Catholics are so obsessed with regaining that which was lost in 1517. It is interesting the answers catholics themselves give. It is also interesting how they (catholics) react when say one of the protestant mainlines decide to have a friendly chat with Rome. I say this in that the small percentage of protestants who are truly Biblical in living their faith have the one thing catholics and liberal protestants will never have.
My wife's great aunt is 93 years old which means in her case she was sprinkled by a Roman Catholic priest 93 years ago, she has put in literally countless hours of labor for her church and is leaving her estate to (I think) the Sisters of Mercy and yet she is not in any way, shape or form prepared for that great getting up day. This says more to me about the RCC than any well written argument or counterargument.
OK, now we're getting somewhere.
Where?
Cut and paste the offending words.
As I said, I don’t understand any of these offenses.
Such bitterness. That’s why it was such a mistake to post this article.
I hold out little hope, much of the ignorance here on the FR religious forum seems to be the very definition of invincible.
Not a good sign when you can’t even be bothered to read my post.
Which post?
Exactly what the Pharisees of old said.
No, nothing at all shameful in your piece BUT in begs the question of what to do with all those folks out there who see it totally differently ~ like they wonder when you will join them.
That, BTW, is the operative condition at the end of the Thirty Years War ~ which rapidly spun out of control as the new concept of the independent nation state with full authority over every matter of life took hold and the old order just flat out disappeared.
From that point on if there was a need for a church to sit above the nation, they got their church and it was nobody else's business. It wasn't always the Roman Catholic church that won the franchise from that point on. Even that age ended sometime in the 1800s and Empire took center stage for Europeans.
The part I haven't figured out is how the Orthodox in Russia gave way to the Baptists and Mennonites~ eventually I'll read enough of their history to see how that idea took hold at the village level but for the moment I'll just remain blissfully unaware of how it happened.
Poland is another issue that's strange. It was Catholic. Protestants conquered it. It remained Catholic. No one cared. Very strange.
My so-called “bitterness” waa in response to your mind-reading comment:
Don’t play the martyr here. A Catholic provoked this by printing this slander. It was a deliberate attempt to start a fight. Which is a real shame.
How do you know what was in the OP’s mind when s/he posted it? Why can’t you just respond to the article? Why do you call it slander? Why should I not be annoyed with your unpleasant comments? Are Catholics simply supposed to agree with YOUR slander?
No, I got the exact year correct for the massacre of the Waldensians by the Catholic Church at Merindol (1545). The ground for this was laid in 1526 at the Synod of Laus where the Waldensians agreed to investigate the protestant movement. In 1532, after meeting with Swiss reformer William Farel the Waldensians adapted the beliefs of the Reformation Church. This prompted the bloody massacre by the Catholic Church.
My so-called “bitterness” waa in response to your mind-reading comment:
“Don’t play the martyr here. A Catholic provoked this by printing this slander. It was a deliberate attempt to start a fight. Which is a real shame.”
How do you know what was in the OP’s mind when s/he posted it? Why can’t you just respond to the article? Why do you call it slander? Why should I not be annoyed with your unpleasant comments? Are Catholics simply supposed to agree with YOUR slander?
>>>>Sorry, I forgot to put quotation marks around your sweet comment.
Several responses to your post, not one straight answer. Of course you know as well as they do that the answer ABC, Anything But Catholic. Because you know that the OPC and the Freewill Baptists share exactly the same beliefs, except for a common understanding of grace and really, who needs grace?
Catholics are supposed to be courteous and loving to others. Just like Protestants. Posting this slander was not an act of love.
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