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Why a candidate’s faith matters
THe Washington Post ^ | October 18, 2011 | Robert Jeffress

Posted on 10/19/2011 5:21:41 PM PDT by wmfights

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To: xzins
Nothing you've said actually contradicts my scenario, nor have you established that either Elimelech or Ruth started out their sojourn by violating the laws of the country they immigrated to. Therefore, you haven't established an equivalency.

Now, you could make a case for a different equivalence: There are also millions of Mexicans who are in this country legally. It would therefore be wrong to create a situation in which they would suffer discrimination because of the illegal border-crossing of others, just as it would have been wrong to discriminate against Ruth in the gleaning because she happened to come from Moab.

A good example would be a friend of mine from Peru who earned his citizenship, but still has to provide his documentation everywhere he goes.

Again, I'm not siding with Uriel--I'm saying that anyone who thinks this is a black-and-white Biblical issue is being overly simplistic.

Shalom

161 posted on 10/25/2011 6:34:29 AM PDT by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.wordpress.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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But the openness is the point, Buggman.

On the one hand, we have a culture that readily accepts these refugees from hard times, and on the other hand, we have a culture that doesn’t.

The odds are high that a foreigner married overseas to an American who afterwards died overseas will not be able to get into the US at all. Yet Ruth easily entered Israel and even claimed access to some marriage rights based on the laws of the land she had entered.

Now, the Levitical rule was to treat sojourners as “native born.” One has to wonder how easy it is to justify a human law that countermands that recommendation.


162 posted on 10/25/2011 6:45:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins
*sigh* So what this really comes down to is that I can see both sides of this issue, while you, Marlowe, and Uriel can't. Got it.

You know, it gets really frustrating talking to brethren who are so micro-focused on just one line of Scripture that they're convinced proves their absolute rightness that they'll ignore anything else. And that goes for all three of you.

I'm walking away now. You can have the final say if you want it.

Shalom

163 posted on 10/25/2011 8:13:31 AM PDT by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.wordpress.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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I don’t think I’ve been arguing for seeing things only one way.

I’ve been arguing on behalf of Moab that they appear to be, in the timeframe of Ruth, anyway, a more friendly place than is the US of A is in the 21st century, especially toward our Mexican neighbors.

The gnashing of teeth over Perry’s tuition aid to children of illegals, here through no fault of their own and with no other country than this, demonstrates the comparison I’m making.


164 posted on 10/25/2011 8:20:55 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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