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Romney's Religion Problem
National Review Online ^ | Oct. 4, 2011 | John Hood

Posted on 10/05/2011 8:05:15 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: Colofornian

I will never vote for Mittens for both reasons - He’s a RINO and he’s Mormon.

I know way too much about Mormonism to ever trust on in political office. I would never vote for a member of the LDS chruch because I know what they think, what they believe, and how hey feel about non-Mormons.

Add to that Mittens thinks he is fulfilling a prophecy of Joseph Smith and working towards godhood - no thanks.


41 posted on 10/05/2011 10:06:41 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: stuartcr
It seems to me that it’s not really his problem, as much as it is those that can’t accept his beliefs.

Just listen to yourself. And then apply those same words to other aspects of what a candidate may push as his campaign promises.

"It seems to me that it's not really his problem [re: his beliefs about the economy], as much as it is those that can’t accept his beliefs."

"It seems to me that it's not really his problem [re: his beliefs about healthcare], as much as it is those that can’t accept his beliefs."

"It seems to me that it's not really his problem [re: his beliefs about social issues embraced by conservatives], as much as it is those that can’t accept his beliefs."

"It seems to me that it's not really his problem [re: his beliefs about border security and illegal aliens], as much as it is those that can’t accept his beliefs."

"It seems to me that it's not really his problem [re: his beliefs about fill-in-the-blank], as much as it is those that can’t accept his beliefs."

42 posted on 10/05/2011 10:40:03 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Scoutmaster
Another of Romney's great-grandfathers, Helaman Pratt, had three wives.

Joseph Smith, who slept with at least 11 women who were already married to other men and claimed them as his spiritual wives, tried to do the same thing with Romney's great-great grandmother, Sarah Pratt, wife of Lds "apostle" Orson Pratt:

From the article, Would you share your spouse with the Prophet?:

Orson Pratt's Wife, Sarah
"Sometime in late 1840 or early 1841, Joseph Smith confided to his friend that he was smitten by the "amiable and accomplished" Sarah Pratt and wanted her for "one of his spiritual wives, for the Lord had given her to him as a special favor for his faithfulness" (emphasis in original). Shortly afterward, the two men took some of Bennett's sewing to Sarah's house. During the visit, as Bennett describes it, Joseph said, "Sister Pratt, the Lord has given you to me as one of my spiritual wives. I have the blessings of Jacob granted me, as God granted holy men of old, and as I have long looked upon you with favor, and an earnest desire of connubial bliss, I hope you will not repulse or deny me." "And is that the great secret that I am not to utter," Sarah replied. "Am I called upon to break the marriage covenant, and prove recreant to my lawful husband! I never will." She added, "I care not for the blessings of Jacob. I have one good husband, and that is enough for me." But according to Bennett, the Prophet was persistent. Finally Sarah angrily told him on a subsequent visit, "Joseph, if you ever attempt any thing of the kind with me again, I will make a full disclosure to Mr. Pratt on his return home. Depend upon it, I will certainly do it." "Sister Pratt," the Prophet responded, "I hope you will not expose me, for if I suffer, all must suffer; so do not expose me. Will you promise me that you will not do it?" "If you will never insult me again," Sarah replied, "I will not expose you unless strong circumstances should require it." "If you should tell," the Prophet added, "I will ruin your reputation, remember that."
(Article "Sarah M. Pratt" by Richard A. Van Wagoner, Dialogue, Vol.19, No.2, p.72. Also see: http://www.xmission.com/~country/reason/spratt.htm)

The article recounts four other failures by Smith to recuit the wives of other men -- and five "successful" efforts.

43 posted on 10/05/2011 10:48:54 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Yes. It’s all relative to what one believes, isn’t it?


44 posted on 10/05/2011 10:51:27 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Texan Tory
The Mormon policy of denying priesthood to black men pre-1978 is a likely bigger problem, especially against a black opponent. Still, it’s probably not a knockout punch, because it’s hard for the democrats to claim the moral high ground on this when so recently they stood by in silence for several years conveniently ignoring the racist (KKK) past of Senator Robert Byrd.

Byrd never ran for PREZ...
...with 24/7 coast-to-coast & intl media full-press coverage...
...in an internet era where media claims are easier to validate.

It wouldn't be a "knockout punch" only 'cause Romney wouldn't ever really even be in the ring. The whole floor would be pulled out under from him before the bell sounds!

The biggest potential loser? (The GOP!)

45 posted on 10/05/2011 11:23:53 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Epstein’s web


46 posted on 10/05/2011 12:24:41 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Colofornian
As for support, 50% would definitely consider a Catholic and 47% a Baptist

That tells me that Carter screwed it up more for Baptists than Kennedy did for Catholics.

47 posted on 10/05/2011 12:42:21 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Texan Tory
it’s hard for the democrats to claim the moral high ground on this when so recently they stood by in silence for several years conveniently ignoring the racist (KKK) past of Senator Robert Byrd.

You don't know that a double standard exists between rats and republicans? The media protected Byrd, often by their silence. It's only when democrats' misdeeds are egregious (Anthony Weiner) that they will toss the democrat under the bus.

If Romney becomes the nominee, all their ammo will be tossed against him, including the cult he is a member of.

48 posted on 10/05/2011 12:57:15 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It’s not “office,” Dilbert, it’s THE office, the Presidency.

Harry Reid isn’t running for President. His campaign stays in his home state.

We’re just pointing out that Romney’s religious beliefs will be used against him if he gets the nomination. That’s the truth, whether you like it or not.

He could, of course, claim that he spent decades listening to all those strange teachings but didn’t really hold to any of them. Sort of throw Brigham Young under the bus with Rev. Wright.


49 posted on 10/05/2011 1:00:30 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: reaganaut
I know way too much about Mormonism to ever trust on in political office. I would never vote for a member of the LDS chruch because I know what they think, what they believe, and how hey feel about non-Mormons.

Add to that, the fact that having a Mormon president would give the cult of mormonism a validity all over the world, delivering souls to the pits of hell.

50 posted on 10/05/2011 1:00:40 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

“You don’t know that a double standard exists between rats and republicans?”

I’m aware of the double standard, but the arguments of the rats are weakened when the double standards are too obvious. For instance, the democrats were constantly bludgeoning republicans for their supposedly neanderthal tendencies regarding sexual harassment, they really owned that issue. But when their boy Bill Clinton came under fire for it, suddenly most of the hysteria died down very quickly, and most of the corporate training and seminars on sexual harassment seemed to disappear almost overnight.


51 posted on 10/05/2011 1:42:50 PM PDT by Texan Tory (Herman Cain for president. Because sometimes it does take a rocket scientist.)
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To: Graybeard58

Yep and perhaps that is the most concerning thing relating to Mitt in the White House, at least for me. I was lied into Mormonism and fear for others who are as well.


52 posted on 10/05/2011 2:53:39 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: reaganaut
I will never vote for Mittens for both reasons - He’s a RINO and he’s Mormon.

I thought I could support him if he won the nomination, but Jim Robinson nailed it when he said if Romney won the nomination then he was no longer a Republican. I can't support muslims, mormons, scientologists, etc. I'll vote third party before I support a mormon.
53 posted on 10/05/2011 3:02:30 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

As would I. I’m with JR on this, if Mittens is the nominee I’m out of the Republican party because they have already left me.

And Mitt is a lot more dangerous than most people realize or want to admit. Him as president just is not an option.


54 posted on 10/05/2011 3:26:33 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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