My Faith: Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), from Catholic to Muslim

CNN ^ | 9/1/11 | Chris Welch

[Lera]

BTW, I think I’ll add you to the list of people I’m unwilling to perform corporal works of mercy with. You will no doubt be pleased.


Mathew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

[Natural Law]

"Post another accusation that I am a "fake Christian"."

Res Ipsa Loquitur

[Judith Anne]

Yes, I know that passage by heart. I am, however, a sinner in need of Christ’s mercy. Actually I was looking for one of the Anti-Catholics to demonstrate it for me, without telling me how WRONG I am. I don’t see where Christ added that part.

[Uri’el-2012]

Romans 12:20

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Judith Anne]

LOL!

[Natural Law]

"I have NEVER (that I can recall) taken 'co-' to mean 'equal'."

How do some of these rubes explain the word "coequal"?

[Mad Dawg]

I'm afraid that there are some who truly believe that we do not fall into the set "Christian." They will not believe us whatever we say.. We are to them as kaffir are to Muslims.

And the truth is, as these threads show again and again, that we hold the Incarnation and the (jargon alert!) "work of Christ" made a bigger difference, a more cosmic difference, and a more profound difference in the nature of Man than they hold.

So it COULD be that if they are right, we are some kind of out there.

To me it is entirely reasonable for it to take centuries for the full meaning of the Incarnation to be understood. And it is entirely reasonable that the Church, as it grew, would need to develop structures and refinements. And, from the first time "it seems good to the Holy Spirit and to us," was uttered by saved sinners right up to today it is reasonable for the Church to have so much confidence in God's protection that these changes could be understood as 'seeming good to the Holy Spirit.'

IN my personal story it was, superficially, the moral and intellectual chaos in the Episcopal Church that opened me to the idea of Tiber-swimming. But more intimately, it was the consequence of a desire to sink more and more deeply into the love and grace of which the Calvinists spoke that led me to something more (in my view), more complete than Calvinism.

handing yourself over to Jesus can lead to entirely unexpected places, including a pew in a chapel where our Lord's body is presented for adoration.

[marbren]

I am, however, a sinner in need of Christ’s mercy.

We are all poor miserable sinners in need of a Savior. We are all the same. :)

[marbren]

well said!

[Judith Anne]

Pretty much my opinion

[Natural Law]

"I'm afraid that there are some who truly believe that we do not fall into the set "Christian.""

I find it almost intolerably ironic that those who assume the title of Christian for purely nominative purposes, namely the LDS and the Paul-ist Protestants claim the Catholic Church is not authentically Christian.

[bronx2]

You need to realize that the fundamentalist/ evangelical fetish with the nation of Israel/rapture/dispensationalism, is the fruit of Satan which leads to perdition.Ask Harold Camping who is the poster child for the obscene group which espouses the aforementioned fetishes.

I think your type will receive a rude awaking on the Day of Judgment unless you repent now of false self serving theories unsubstantiated by anyone save your own imaginations.

[smvoice]

How clever you are...Aren’t you the one who tried to post an internet exorcism?

[Uri’el-2012]

You need to realize that the fundamentalist/ evangelical fetish with the nation of Israel/rapture/dispensationalism, is the fruit of Satan which leads to perdition.Ask Harold Camping who is the poster child for the obscene group which espouses the aforementioned fetishes.

I think your type will receive a rude awaking on the Day of Judgment unless you repent now of false self serving theories unsubstantiated by anyone save your own imaginations.

You paint with a very broad brush.

Camping does not represent anyone outside his own congregation.

Mat 25:40 "The King will answer and say to them,
'Truly I say to you,
to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine,
even the least of them, you did it to Me.'

Mat 25:41 "Then He will also say to those on His left,
'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire
which has been prepared for the devil and his angels;

Mat 25:42 for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat;
I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink;

Who are Yah'shua's brethren ?

Here is a hint; Yah'shua was, is and will always be a Jew.

Review Matthew 25:34-46

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[metmom]

Goodness, Uri’el, the whole passage is loaded for bear.

Romans 12:9-21

9 Let love be genuine. Abhor what is evil; hold fast to what is good. 10 Love one another with brotherly affection. Outdo one another in showing honor. 11Do not be slothful in zeal, be fervent in spirit, serve the Lord. 12 Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. 13 Contribute to the needs of the saints and seek to show hospitality.

14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep. 16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly. Never be wise in your own sight. 17 Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. 18If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. 19Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” 20To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” 21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

[Natural Law]

"How clever you are...Aren’t you the one who tried to post an internet exorcism?"

Assuming it is OK to drag issues from thread to thread, if I had done it (I can't find any evidence of it) it would have been done out of love and concern. In any event here is a short and sweet prayer for you that we used to say after Mass when I was an altar boy that accomplishes the same thing:

Sancte Michael Archangele,
Sancte Michael Archangele, defende nos in proelio; contra nequitiam et insidias diaboli esto praesidium. Imperat illi Deus; supplices deprecamur: tuque, Princeps militiae coelestis, Satanam aliosque spiritus malignos, qui ad perditionem animarum pervagantur in mundo, divina virtute in infernum detrude. Amen

Prayer To St. Michael The Archangel
Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in the battle, be our safeguard and protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil; may God rebuke him, we humbly pray; and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan and all evil spirits who wander through the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

[Uri’el-2012]

I guess some of the Roman "church" are
unfamiliar with Paul to the Romans ;-)

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[marbren]

The Harold Camping error is due to replacement theology.

[metmom]

Ya think?

Kind of ironic, isn’t it?

The one letter Paul writes to Rome.......

[Natural Law]

"I think your type will receive a rude awaking on the Day of Judgment unless you repent...

Even if you are among the elect and have been saved? I thought your compatriots have been saying that works such as prayer, repentance, forgiving, worshiping, loving, clothing, feeding, visiting, healing, and the such were like so many filthy rags.

I think your problem issue is with whom you have climbed into bed with on these issues and not the doctrines of the one Holy and Apostolic Catholic Church founded by Jesus.