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Posted on 08/18/2011 7:18:16 AM PDT by marshmallow
Stfassisi did not say he needed to wait until adoration. You added the idea of "need" to what he actually wrote, and then argued against something he didn't say.
I simply address Him anywhere at any time because He is always listening and always with me.
Catholics do the same and for the same reason.
To me it seems as if you are arguing NOT against what we hold and do, but against some caricature presented in some anti-Catholic tract.
Threads like this seem more like the cul-de-sac at the end of Curse.
I think you are more accurately described as a Modernist. Pope Pius X dubbed the heresy of Modernism "the synthesis of all heresies”. It combines aspects of Relativism, Arianism, Gnosticism, Universalism, Syncretism and Religious Indifference. It is not a doctrinal or dogmatic difference with the Church; it is a belief that doctrine and dogma are somehow passé and of secondary importance to moral teachings. Modernism is the most prevalent and direct threat to the Church because it appeals to our vanities. It accompanies sectarianism and masquerades as enlightenment.
Human Pride gets in the way....the need to feel significant somehow....to die to ones self achievements is hard for most....harder still for those who have a church which requires they levels of achievement.
To accept the "finished work of Christ' in entirety means one can see the depravity of man in himself....that usually only occurs the closer we become to Christ in our relationship with him....the more we see Him for He he is... the more we also see how far from His righteousness we are.....but the more grateful we are and greater love for Him we have for seeing there really isn't anything in us worthy....
... But because He stepped in front of us...bearing the guilt and shame...and the death sentence for us...we are truly forgiven....and His Resurrection evidenced death is swallowed up in Victory .....So that..." NOW there is no longer ANY condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus."
Finished....Indeed!...otherwise...defeated and lost...
Yeah...gets pretty heavy and deep doesn’t it...
Awww...don't tell me you skipped Scofield's excellent allegory simply because he's not Catholic did you? I think he made a very important point, one that our Heavenly Father sincerely desires we understand. We are IN Christ, we have been bought with a price - his precious blood, yet you choose to toss it aside in favor of deserving it? Have you missed the parts where he says we DON'T and we CAN'T?
We are born in sin; with the Grace of God, we may gain our eternal Salvation, but we Christians throw ourselves on the mercy of Almighty God. We do not arrogantly proclaim our own salvation either on the Internet or in person.
How many times and in how many ways must God repeatedly tell you until you will believe him? Here's the good news: For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
So who is being arrogant here? One who falls upon the throne of grace believing and trusting in God's promise that we shall not perish but HAVE eternal life or the one who says they throw themselves on the throne of God's mercy but refuse to accept what his mercy actually gives them?
Serious question: How do you know that you did this - for sure. E.g., is it measured by the amount of your certainty that you are going to heaven?
Would you have said the same to all those who bare a "thorn in their flesh".
If somebody wants to argue against something that's not true, I don't see a duty to play the part of his straw man.
Carry on. Those who agree with you will no doubt continue to agree with you. Far be it from me to disturb someone's dogmatic slumber. Sleep on, but I'm not getting in THAT bed.
Yes, I would like to comment. But there just isn't enough time left in this world to post all my comments. BTW: A "state of grace"? Yet another comment waiting.
I know. I just wanted to see if you would publicly agree with the Church and disagree with the anti-Catholic cabal.....What was I thinking.
I thought of the same thing. The only explanation for stfassisi’s promise that could “reasonably” explain it is that it was a kind of prophecy.
Exercise sounds like work to me. I thought you Calvinists were pick from a hat at the beginning of time and things like exercise were some heretical notion held by those stupid unelect Catholics. Welcome home!
Not just thanks, but glory and honor and majesty be to our God because victory in Christ is the ONLY victory that exists for all mankind. There would be NO victory apart from him so it is only logical that through Jesus Christ, and him alone, is there victory over sin and its consequences. We have been redeemed from the curse of the law through Christ's shed blood because without it we would STILL be under the curse and doomed for eternity.
To the same degree and for the same reason I believe He arose from the dead. Both equally hard to believe for non-Christians.
BTW - "Turned into" is a pretty crude and primitive way to describe transubstantiation, but I got your drift. The substance of the bread becomes the substance of the body of Christ.
If you had the ability to travel back in time to the Galilee in 33AD with every scientific and forensic tool available and encounter Christ you would not be able to prove that he was both man and God. Similarly, if you examine the Eucharist with every scientific and forensic tool available today you could not establish that its substance was too both bread and the body of Christ. It makes it no less so.
D-fendr: Serious question: How do you know that you did this - for sure. E.g., is it measured by the amount of your certainty that you are going to heaven?
By the *this* I am presuming that you are referring to the exercising of faith, correct? I just want to make sure I understand what you're asking and answer the question you are actually asking and not what I may have thought you were asking, if you get my drift.
That's a good question. Let me sleep on that and formulate a response. I can say, however, that my certainty of going to heaven is not the measure of my faith or salvation, as everyone struggles with doubts at times.
And I realize that many people can be certain of where they are going but can be wrong. I would think that pretty much everyone here would conclude that muslims might be pretty certain that if they blow themselves up, they will enter paradise with all those virgins, and agree that they are still wrong.
A stfassisi “prophecy” could “reasonably” explain him telling metmom that getting back into the Catholic Church would heal her eating problems?...?? Let’s just, for starters, talk about the wafers. Are they gluten-free? I had no idea stfassisi was a prophet...
Oh no it isn’t the same degree and reason for believing He arose from the dead. God’s word TELLS us He rose from the dead. THe Vatican tells you a wafer and a sip of wine becomes Christ. Not even close to the same thing.
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