Ayn Rand Led Me to Christ

Christianity Today (Online) ^ | 6/29/2011 | Bishop Edward S. Little II

[newheart]

The simple answer is, from the very beginning the people of the world have been in constant war. A war between Good and Evil.

I have read "The Light and the Glory" and I completely share your recommendation of it. But I do think we have to be careful not to equate our particular brand of 20/21st century American political and economic system with the Gospel. The former is ideology, and although I will argue night and day that it is more in keeping with the freedom God intends for creation, it is still not the Kingdom of God and only serves, for as long as we can keep it, as a hint of what that ultimate Kingdom will be.

[Paperdoll]

The entire point is that our government, as originally designed by God and Christian men, was the greatest form of governmenr eer devised, and how we have broken His heart by stupidly turning from Him to become more worldly than prayerful. Small wonder why He has withdrawn His Holy support from America. It is apparent as He allows new storms every day to ravage the country. But the people do not hear Him.

That government was meanat for Christian people to live by.
If we want it back, WE must be responsible for our tragic loss, repent and change our ways BACK to being a Godly people. Our priorities need serious attention!

[He Rides A White Horse]

I agree. for me, the real problem with Rand's approach and with any system that does not allow for an objective basis for good and bad, is that eventually pure selfishness inexorably creeps in. It becomes very subjective (real irony in the name "objectivism") and devolves into the only real values are my own.

Emphasis mine. That is the crux of the matter. It is ironic as you state with respect to an objectivity devolving into subjectivity. Since we are all human beings, by our very nature we will have morals, morals of great difference ranging to similarity. It is a basic human condition, and cannot be ignored.

[NYCslicker]

That’s fine. I’m not really arguing whether or not God exists.

But you did manage to avoid answering my questions.

[newheart]

It is ironic as you state with respect to an objectivity devolving into subjectivity.

Yes. That is the crux of the matter. In my opinion, the Fall is precisely that. The devolution from objectivity to subjectivity. Whether you see it as beginning with Adam and Eve or simply the result in each individual of making the fundamental decision to say, "I am smarter than God," the result is the same.

You're exactly right, by our nature we will have morals. It is the condition of fallen man. I suspect, that unfallen man does not even have to raise the question.