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Mitt Romney: can a Mormon take the White House?
Archbishop Cranmer: His_Grace ^ | June 3, 2011 | Archbishop Cranmer

Posted on 06/04/2011 9:05:59 AM PDT by Colofornian

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Archbishop Cranmer is a highly rated UK blogger who promotes a conservative perspective. Religiously, he promotes the Church of England. (Obama's White House even includes this blogger on his White House press release list)

Here, he points out that Romney's Mormonism is deemed a cult just like Scientology:

From the article: The problem for Mr Romney is that whatever he attempts to make the political focus or the central message of his campaign, he will be confronted at every turn with an almost innate American suspicion of his Mormon faith. For most Trinitarian Christians (by no means just the Evangelical ‘Christian Right’), the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is a cult whose theology is heretical and whose customs are anachronistic (to say the least). The Southern Baptist Convention firmly categorises Mormons with Scientologists; among those sects who have blasphemously added to Scripture and are under the control of false prophets. This is not insignificant for the Republican Party, whose evangelical base constitutes almost a third of the party's electorate and can wield considerable power in primary states, most notably South Carolina.

This line above -- and are under the control of false prophets...is not to be overlooked. A Mormon POTUS in the White House would place the White House squarely under the authority of the false prophets.

Romney took a Mormon temple oath like all Mormons. He swore that he would "consecrate himself, his time, talents and EVERYTHING he now has, or WILL HAVE IN THE FUTURE, for the building up of the Kingdom of God here upon the earth, and FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF ZION."

Allow me to define "Zion" as the LDS PR Web site (lds.org) defines its primary meaning: "membership in the [LDS] church."

1 posted on 06/04/2011 9:06:05 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: SZonian; greyfoxx39; Godzilla

Ping invite comment on temple oath.


2 posted on 06/04/2011 9:06:56 AM PDT by Colofornian (I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
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From the article: There are, of course, too many relativist considerations in the present age for terms like ‘harm’ and ‘beneficial’ to be expounded. Even the democratic primacy of ‘mainstream’ is undermined by the deference displayed to every fragmented religious minority interest, for fear of causing offence. In the final analysis, every cult is now a religion because no-one is perceived to have the political right or the spiritual authority to tell anyone else what they should or should not believe, or what they may and may not do. Liberty has become a deity. Since we are now obliged to respect all religious beliefs and revere every spirituality, perhaps Mitt Romney would make the perfect postmodern presidential candidate. All men may not be equal, but all religions certainly are. Islam is as great as Judaism and as noble as Christianity, which are just as worthy of respect as Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism, and any and every other spiritual ‘-ism’ which emanates from the mind of man. Mormonism? Well, why not?

Bingo. A great British analysis of the post-modern multi-culturalism plaguing the West. I've seen it embraced even by many so-called “conservative” FREEPERS. And hey, why not? They are products, too, of the liberal multi-culturalism taught on high school and college campuses!

As this blogger says, so many are in fear of causing offense...hence ”every cult is now a religion because no-one is perceived to have the political right or the spiritual authority to tell anyone else what they should or should not believe...Liberty has become a deity.

Bingo. Too many FREEPER conservatives bow down to the god of licentiousness, who often masquerades as the god of 'liberty.'

Repeat emphasis from the article: Since we are now obliged to respect all religious beliefs and revere every spirituality, perhaps Mitt Romney would make the perfect postmodern presidential candidate.

Excellent analysis: Romney is the candidate of the post-modern voters! And post-modern influenced voters are often the ones who even if Romney is not their first choice, they see no problem voting for him if it comes down to that.

Repeat emphasis form the article: ll men may not be equal, but all religions certainly are. Islam is as great as Judaism and as noble as Christianity, which are just as worthy of respect as Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism, and any and every other spiritual ‘-ism’ which emanates from the mind of man. Mormonism? Well, why not?

Yup. Numerous times over several years I have posted the following in response to FREEPER post-modern-like comments: ...no wonder people slide down a religious Bahai-like pathway where they run everything together about God and begin to conclude a fundamentalist Mormon-is-a-Mormon-is-a-Christian-is-a-Jonestownite-is-a-Branch-Davidian-is-a-Heavens-Gate-ian-is-a-Urantia believer-is a Church Universal & Triumphant-is-a-Wicca-Witch-is-Voodoo practioner-is-a-New-Ager-is-a-whirling dervish-is-a-Hindu-is-a-Sikh-is-a-Muslim!

3 posted on 06/04/2011 9:09:28 AM PDT by Colofornian (I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
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To: Colofornian

Hell,...a COMMUNIST took the White House! A MUSLIM took the White House after only 7 years since they killed 3,000 Americans!


4 posted on 06/04/2011 9:09:33 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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From the article: Certainly, Mitt Romney can (and probably will) say that he believes that ‘Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the savior of mankind’. But the theological ambiguities will not be expounded (and ‘ambiguities’ is putting it politely). The Mormon god is not spirit, but a mortal, material being of flesh and blood who progressed to deity, as all men may. If believers are good and faithful, each will be given a planet of their own to rule<./u>. The Mormon god lives in heaven in a polygamous relationship with multiple wives, and sexually reproduces. In common with Eastern religions, there is a variation on reincarnation as Mormons believe in the pre-existence of all people in heaven before they were born on earth. While Mitt Romney worships Jesus Christ, this is not the Jesus revealed in Scripture. The biblical Jesus was with God in the beginning and was God: the Mormon Jesus was conceived and born in heaven first as a ‘spirit child’ by God the Father in union with one of his wives. Jesus was the first-born spirit child, and Lucifer was his second. Thus Jesus and Lucifer are brothers. The orthodox Christian teaching is that God became man and was born of a virgin. For Mormons, the heavenly man-god came to earth and had sexual relations with Mary, and Jesus was the result. Mormons do not believe in the eternal deity of Jesus: he became a god only after living a virtuous life on earth. He then appeared before the council of gods that meet near a star called Kolob, who declared him to be a god in the pantheon of gods. It is a religion of salvation by works, which even the Son of God has to earn.

The Mormon god was a man-become-god. He wasn't god always. (That's who a Mormon POTUS would appeal to in a national crisis...Hey, all...good “luck” with that)

A Mormon POTUS would believe that Lucifer is his elder brother. Hmmm...

5 posted on 06/04/2011 9:10:33 AM PDT by Colofornian (I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
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A Quaker, Richard Nixon, won the White House twice, so why not a Mormon?

But the Mormon won’t be WILLARD MITT ROMENY.


6 posted on 06/04/2011 9:10:38 AM PDT by onyx (Quaker)
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To: onyx

Dittos.


7 posted on 06/04/2011 9:11:49 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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Mormon’s are a cult.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gm6JYFdnD8

8 posted on 06/04/2011 9:12:11 AM PDT by troy McClure
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To: onyx

I think that Glenn Beck never saw that far into the future in Mitt Romney entering the race.

Obviously he couldn’t support the romster while working

for FOX


9 posted on 06/04/2011 9:14:30 AM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (the kingdom of heaven is within us)
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To: Colofornian

His Mormonism doesn’t bother me. It’s his liberalism. I have known plenty of good Mormons.


10 posted on 06/04/2011 9:14:30 AM PDT by RC one (DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!)
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To: Colofornian
For most Trinitarian Christians (by no means just the Evangelical ‘Christian Right’), the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is a cult whose theology is heretical and whose customs are anachronistic (to say the least). The Southern Baptist Convention firmly categorises Mormons with Scientologists; among those sects who have blasphemously added to Scripture and are under the control of false prophets. This is not insignificant for the Republican Party, whose evangelical base constitutes almost a third of the party's electorate and can wield considerable power in primary states, most notably South Carolina.

Romney being nominated will be an epic mistake and set back for America. His support is coming from the same GOP establishment machine that has been riding behind the left as they battled the conservative American culture since at least the mid 20th century.

11 posted on 06/04/2011 9:15:13 AM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: MissDairyGoodnessVT

Romney and Huntsman are both too progressive for Glenn Beck.


12 posted on 06/04/2011 9:16:38 AM PDT by onyx (Quaker)
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To: Colofornian

Being a Mormon is the least of the problems for this “Obama-lite”.


13 posted on 06/04/2011 9:17:13 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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From the article: For most Trinitarian Christians (by no means just the Evangelical ‘Christian Right’), the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is a cult whose theology is heretical and whose customs are anachronistic (to say the least).

Ansel, you were making a similar point to this earlier this week.

14 posted on 06/04/2011 9:19:29 AM PDT by Colofornian (I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
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can a Mormon take the White House?

I don't see why not as long as he brings it back in a reasonable period under risk of imprisonment if he doesn't.

15 posted on 06/04/2011 9:20:22 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: onyx

Beck, who left Christianity to practice Mormonism, does support Romney.

GLENN BECK, after quickly dismissing Governor Palin:
“I have to tell you that Mitt Romney could be the only guy that could win, and I don’t know if he could because I think that Americans are going to be I mean, this country is going to be in deep trouble by 2012, and the next term, if it’s not decided this term, the next term will decide our fate. Then I hope that Americans are ready for an adult and are ready for hard news.”


16 posted on 06/04/2011 9:22:21 AM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: RC one
His Mormonism doesn’t bother me. It’s his liberalism. I have known plenty of good Mormons.

"Good" Mormons. I'm sure many in Jesus' day knew plenty of "good" Pharisees. Jesus highly complimented their outward behavior; and then turned around called them inwardly whitewashed tombstones, critiquing these legalists more than anyone.

Besides, if you were auditioning for godhood, you'd be on your best behavior, too!

As for his Mormonism not bothering you, while that's representative of many FREEPERS, it's not representative of the other half of Americans.

17 posted on 06/04/2011 9:26:27 AM PDT by Colofornian (I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
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To: Colofornian

Not as long as he believes/ they “MORE-MANS” will be administering the LAW from Missouri while Jesus rules from the Mount of Olives “No way”


18 posted on 06/04/2011 9:28:57 AM PDT by Tigen (I shall raise you one .)
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To: onyx; Keith in Iowa; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; dixiechick2000

The issue with Romney is not religion--though he and his liberal media cheerleaders would have you think you're a bigot if you don't embrace his candidacy.

WHO twenty-year morning host Jan Mickelson set off the classic Romney paranoid hystery in 2008 when pursuing a clarification of belief.

Of greater moment is the analysis yesterday of The Great One, Mark Levin, that Romney has now attained Three-Strikes status:

1) He destroyed health care in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts and won't back away from that;

2) He supports ethanol subsidies (that market thing, plus, we can't afford crony capitalism);

3) He claims there is a human contribution to global warming which must be addressed.

I respect Mark Levin as a man who reveres the Constitution.

Romney the oily politician who'd barter our freedom for another shot at the title--[adult language]


19 posted on 06/04/2011 9:30:58 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: ansel12

I think he said his dream team was West and Bachmann.


20 posted on 06/04/2011 9:31:20 AM PDT by onyx (If you truly like and support Sarah Palin and want on her BUSY Ping List, let me know!)
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