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Why is Huntsman’s Mormonism “Tough to Define”?
Religion Dispatches.com ^ | May 13, 2011 | Joanna Brooks

Posted on 05/18/2011 6:29:12 AM PDT by Colofornian

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From the article: Romney is what many Mormons call a TBM--or "true-believing Mormon"—an orthodox believer and devout practitioner of the faith. Huntsman? Well, he's something else—an other-than-orthodox Mormon of a variety that contemporary Mormonism may not yet have the vocabulary to describe.

Well, of course. Romney is a former Lds bishop.

TBM Mormons believe in baptizing the entire dead world so that they, too, can become Mormons...no matter what they were in life...

TBM Mormons believe they will become gods...so for Romney that means that the White House is just a career stopping point on his way to the Great White Throne...where he will be worshiped, glorified, prayed to, and the like.

1 posted on 05/18/2011 6:29:16 AM PDT by Colofornian
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From the article: Early Thursday morning, Matthew Bowman at the New Republic tried to spin the differences between Romney and Huntsman as generational...

IOW, Romney was a 1966 Lds missionary when Mormonism was steeped in racism...disallowing blacks into the priesthood...and Huntsman was a 1979 Lds missionary...the year after Mormonism tried to moved away from its racist past.

2 posted on 05/18/2011 6:31:30 AM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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I’m gonna love this wing ding in Utah.

Romney and Huntsman supporters will be at each other’s throats.

Palin could win Utah under this scenario. LMAO


3 posted on 05/18/2011 6:32:40 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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From the article: What do you call a Mormon who attends church once a month or less and leans liberal? Depends on who you ask.

I know some people might be tempted to answer "Harry Reid." But I'm pretty sure he attends a LOT more often than that!

Reid is also a sanctioned home teacher by the Lds church.

4 posted on 05/18/2011 6:33:17 AM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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Whatever any Mormon is, he is NOT a Christian. Period.


5 posted on 05/18/2011 6:37:12 AM PDT by laweeks
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“What do you call a Mormon who attends church once a month or less and leans liberal? Depends on who you ask.”

You call him “Jack.” Goes pretty well with “Jon,” too.

“Jack Mormons”: The LDS answer to “Pew Catholics” and “Back Row Baptists.”


6 posted on 05/18/2011 6:37:57 AM PDT by Scanian
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Headline: Why is Huntsman’s Mormonism “Tough to Define”?

Maybe because he doesn’t really believe it or care for it that much? Lot of liberals are that way about their religion / denomination, etc. Nothing new here.


7 posted on 05/18/2011 6:45:55 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (American Thinker Columnist / Rush ghost contributor)
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That he’s a Mormon isn’t as big a problem for me as that he’s a buffoon.


8 posted on 05/18/2011 6:46:43 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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From the article: ...the truly unfortunate thing is that Huntsman's slippery talk on Mormon identity may put him in bad a light as Mitt Romney, now infamous for his double-talk and "flip-flop" on healthcare. (Dana Milbank went so far as to compare Mitt to conjoined twins recently born in China. Ouch.)

Well, it's frankly par for the course for Mormon leaders.

Does the Mormon god care about skin color?
Yes, pre-1978.
No, pre-1978.
Yes, if you still believe the Book of Mormon & Pearl of Great Price, half of Mormon "scriptures"...
...and yes, if you believe D&C 134:12...a third Mormon scripture.
No, if you believe Lds Inc's PR Dept.

Does the Mormon god think polygamy is abominable?
Yes, if you believe the Book of Mormon.
No, if you believe Mormonism's Doctrine & Covenants.
Yes, if you believe Mormonism's policy on threatening members who take a second simultaneous spouse on earth.
No, if you look at Lds doctrine on eternal marriage & realize some of their top leaders have been sealed for eternity to both of their wives, married in serial fashion.
Yes, polygamy is abominable if you believe in the 1830 Mormon church.
No, if you believe in the Mormon church of the 1850s to the early 1900s...when they still were secretly solemnizing plural unions.
Yes, if you believe what they said in 1890.
No, if you believe Lds "apostle" Bruce McConkie's Mormon Doctrine book, where he called polygamy a "holy practice" that would be re-instituted when the Mormon jesus returns.

As for Romney himself...Is Romney "pro-life"???
Not the early Romney, who embraced pro-abortionism from his mom when she ran for senate.
Not the 1994 Romney, who attended Planned Parenthood events and had his wife write them a check.
Yes, the 2001 Romney said he wasn't pro-choice per a letter to the editor in a Utah newspaper.
No, the 2002 Romney wasn't...he campaigned for MA gov as pro-abortion...and even sought out pro-abortion voters' guides to get his pro-abortion message out.
Yes, the late 2004 Romney was when he said he realized what embryonic research was.
No, the 2005 Romney wasn't when he promised he would maintain the pro-choice status quo position on abortion in that state (statement made May 2005).
Yes, Romney said in his early 2007 campaign speeches that every action he took as gov was "pro-life."
No, Romney signed pro-abortion healthcare for Mass...opening the door wider for taxpayer-funded abortion in that state and failed to veto a section of his bill that retained a member of Planned Parenthood as a permanent board member.
Yes, Romney told Chris Wallace that he NEVER saw himself as "pro-choice" 'cause he didn't "feel" "pro-choice"...(August, 2007).
No, Romney told Katie Couric in December of 2007 that parents could either give up their embryos for "adoption" or for research.

9 posted on 05/18/2011 6:48:30 AM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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rino progressive.


10 posted on 05/18/2011 6:51:05 AM PDT by ken21 (dem taxes + regs + unions = jobs overseas.)
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there is only one Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Highly inaccurate. There are a multitude of splinter groups, ranging from hundreds of thousands to a few dozen members. Some of the fundamentalist varieties still practice polygamy.

Here's a list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sects_in_the_Latter_Day_Saint_movement

11 posted on 05/18/2011 6:51:23 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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He could not get re-elected here in Utah and he will not win this state in the GOP.

Never in my life have I seen so many human beings happy about their governor leaving as I did when Huntsman left for the diplomatic corps.

And when I say happy, I mean it. As you strolled into the local grocery store or Walgreens, people were poking each other in the ribs, saying “Can you believe Obama took this clown off our hands? Damn.”


12 posted on 05/18/2011 6:52:52 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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From the article: ...it might help to understand the complicated world of Mormon identity politics.

Well, it's complex in some ways...but not in others.

For example, in the primaries last go-round, Mormons in Wyoming, Nevada, Arizona and Utah ensured that Romney got 94-95% of their vote!

Now that's identity politics!

What was interesting all through the FR forums of 2007 and early 2008 was that people had no prob fussin' 'bout voters who took a candidate's Mormonism into consideration - if they were non-Mormon voters...but if they were Mormon voters...that was OK!

13 posted on 05/18/2011 6:53:21 AM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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Truthfully, not being from Utah, I don’t know the guy from Adam-—I was just reacting to the article.

And if a political junkie like me doesn’t know much about him, I’d say he has a serious name recognition problem.

Won’t be a factor.


14 posted on 05/18/2011 7:01:17 AM PDT by Scanian
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A Mormon will never be President.


15 posted on 05/18/2011 7:04:51 AM PDT by dfwgator
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He could not get re-elected here in Utah and he will not win this state in the GOP.

(Yet the two Mormon candidates will still get 94-95% of the Mormon vote in Utah...showing the world that it's still OK to consider a candidate's Mormonism when you vote!)

16 posted on 05/18/2011 7:08:02 AM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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[From the article]: there is only one Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Highly inaccurate. There are a multitude of splinter groups, ranging from hundreds of thousands to a few dozen members. Some of the fundamentalist varieties still practice polygamy. Here's a list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sects_in_the_Latter_Day_Saint_movement [Sherman Logan]

Excellent point.

(And it's not like these splinters aren't practicing what was mainstream Mormonism for 80 years! Re: polygamy)

17 posted on 05/18/2011 7:10:25 AM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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My point was, and is, that these two factions (in this state) will fight tooth and nail. Picture a cartoon with feathers flying. LOL

I see neither side giving up. My girl just might end up on top. LOL

Stubborn LDS oxen, I’m thinking. heh


18 posted on 05/18/2011 7:12:59 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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What do you call a Jew who loves bacon, doesn't believe in God, and attends shul only on High Holy Days? Jewish. I beg to differ
19 posted on 05/18/2011 7:19:34 AM PDT by montag813
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[From the article]What do you call a Jew who loves bacon, doesn't believe in God, and attends shul only on High Holy Days? Jewish.
I beg to differ [Montag]

What do you expect from a Mormon columnist who identifies herself as "liberal?" Some of her assessments are right on; most are off.

And two of the most important -- spiritual and political -- she's way off!

20 posted on 05/18/2011 7:23:18 AM PDT by Colofornian (Key Q for Romney & Huntsman: Show us your spirit-birth certificate from Kolob)
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