Mormon Church Denies Prior Knowledge of Susan Brock Affair With Teen Boy, Which is a Lie

Phoenix New Times ^ | April 18, 2011 | James King

[Colofornian]

From the article: The church issued the following statement..."Any allegation that Church leaders knew of abuse but did nothing is inaccurate and offensive...When abuse does occur we work to see that it is reported to the authorities."...Rather than call the police, Fulton Brock called his bishop at the Mormon Church, to whom Susan Brock admitted having...sex...with the boy. When the boy's parents were told...rather than immediately call police, they also contacted their bishop in the Mormon Church. As the father of the victim ...told police, after meeting with Church leaders, he was "under the impression" cops would be called. But they weren't -- as the boy's father was waiting for Church leaders to alert authorities of the abuse of his teenage son, he figured he'd just call them on his own.

From the article: Nobody called police...not Fulton Brock, not the boy's parents, and not the Mormon Church. The abuse...continued for a year before police were notified -- and when police were notified, it wasn't by Mormon Church officials.

(Hey, early 20th century & late 19th-century Mormons didn't "tattle" on polygamists breaking the law by taking an extra wife...what's the difference in the way they set up neighborhoods of refuge for sexual law-breakers then and now?)

Especially since this "not reporting to the authorities" seems to be an ongoing theme in the Mormon church.

December, 2010: Did fellow Mormons cover up officer's baby molestations?

February, 2011: Father of The 5 Browns pleads guilty to sexually abusing his daughters

March, 2011: Sacramento News & Review

[MissesBush]

Is your church held to the same standard of perfection that you hold the Mormon Church? Could it POSSIBLY be that wires got crossed which lead to the failure of all involved to call the police? A Mormon bishop would not call the police because it would breach confidentiality of confessed sins, which would lead to people chosing not to confess them. The person commiting a criminal act would be strongly urged to confess to the police at the risk of their church membership for not doing so. But a Bishop would not breach that confidentiality. Go worry about the short-comings in your own faith instead of always trying to demean the LDS faith. Or is that why you obsess over these things, to cover up your own religion’s flaws?

[MissesBush]

I bet if we looked into your own religion not reporting abuses, we’d find plenty. But the media won’t cover that, or your own religion just hasn’t been exposed in that regard. And in how many instances have Mormon authorities acted as opposed to 4 you cite where mistakes MAY have been made?? Why don’t you get all the facts before rushing to judgment?

[VeniVidiVici]

Thanks! I’ve bookmarked these other articles from the ‘Phoenix New Times’ for a later read:

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[Colofornian]

Is your church held to the same standard of perfection that you hold the Mormon Church?

My church doesn't pretend to have 1/5th or more of its membership acting as "gods-in-embyro"...a fave term many Mormon leaders have referenced the Mormon "faithful" as...

Should we not expect more from "gods-in-embyro?"

My church doesn't pretend to have a "living prophet" guiding the church as the actual voice of God.

Should we not expect more from a church that claims to have a Moses in their midst - operating at the helm of all of its operations?

[Colofornian]

A Mormon bishop would not call the police because it would breach confidentiality of confessed sins, which would lead to people chosing not to confess them.

(Yeah, well click on that third link -- in the article about "Brother Curtis" in that Sacramento paper -- re: how the Mormon lawyers continually distorted the "clergy privilege" argument in that case...the author of the "Brother Curtis" book lays that out real well)

[Emperor Palpatine]

[Colofornian]

Go worry about the short-comings in your own faith instead of always trying to demean the LDS faith.

BTW, have you applied this advice to yourself? Do you worry about the short-comings in your own faith before you go on FR and demean other posters' religious comments? Or is it ONLY YOU that has the open free license to offer religious-based critiques? You seem to be able to readily demean...so what are we to believe? The message you preach -- or your actions?

Well will consistency find you? When will you offer up actions that actually back up what you say?

[Colofornian]

Could it POSSIBLY be that wires got crossed which lead to the failure of all involved to call the police?

(Of course, that's possible. But, then, when that happens, you don't go around after the fact touting lies in press-release statements -- like the AZ Mormon church did in this case that.."When abuse does occur we work to see that it is reported to the authorities"...do you?)

[svcw]

Wait a minute. In a story a few months ago they said they did know but were trying to deal with internally or some such thing.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

I don’t think the poster holds Mormonism to a standard of perfection, as you say...

On the contrary, he is pointing out that even though Mormonism spends millions on PR firms to convince others that it is perfect, it is no such thing.

It sure bothers Mormons when Christians quote Mormon leaders and post facts, evidence and articles that show it in daylight.

That must reveal deep seated insecurity that the (Mormon) emporer is naked.

[svcw]

I have an idea deal with the story about a pedophile rather than turn on the poster. Show some condemnation of the perp.

[Lurker]

The entire Church knew about it? Every single member?

Rather than call the police, Fulton Brock called his bishop at the Mormon Church, to whom Susan Brock admitted having...sex...with the boy.

So they did exactly the same thing Catholic Bishops did for decades, then.

L

[svcw]

Post them.
Deal with the pedophile and not the poster.
Where is condemnation of the perp, you have lots for the poster who has not molested children.

[Colofornian]

The entire Church knew about it? Every single member?

Go to the first link in post #1...you'll see a discussion in that Idaho case about all these lay people who knew about that incident.

You see, the Mormon church doesn't have any "professional" leaders. They're ALL lay leaders. And so whenever any of these lay leaders claim knowledge to such abuse, the Mormon legal reps & hierarchy rushes in and claims "clergy privilege" -- no matter who they are.

So you can't even tell in the Mormon church where "clergy privilege" begins and where it ends.

[svcw]

You are correct both groups - huge fail.

[Emperor Palpatine]

They won’t because the perp is a fellow cultist.

They’re ALREADY saints, don’t cha know?

[svcw]

Bingo

[Hoodat]

IT'S ON!

[MissesBush]

The molester isn’t here to be spoken to. I would THINK it might be obvious that I condemn molestation. If you can produce her, then I’ll be glad to have a little chat with her about the evils of sexual abuse. Until then, I have addressed someone who is present to be addressed about the evils of religious bigotry, though I’m chosing to ignore their other postings because frankly they are too steeped in hatred to be convinced of the wrong they’re doing. You might want to address the unChristian and unAmerican nature of religious bigotry too because my friend, it’s coming down to a struggle between the believers vs. the unbelievers in this world. But those who make themselves tools of Satan through religious bigotry want us to take our eye off the struggle we should be fighting-—against the tide of atheism and unbelief-—and focus it instead on fighting one another. That only benefits the Lucifer.