Posted on 04/17/2011 2:58:04 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
That’s a good question. I think a lot of them are the type who don’t write “God” or “Jesus” all the way through and sometimes have different names for them. I wish FR had the poll thing back, then we could get a handle on such questions!
“Have their leaders spent 160 years bashing Christianity and Christians?”
I’m not sure they have leaders, they just show up and start talking about Easter or how Sunday isn’t the day to worship.
Freegards
Mormons are to Christianity what Protestants are.
“Mormons are to Christianity what Protestants are.”
Nope. Protestants are Christians.
Freegards
(I like Mormons, too...can't always pick "family," ya know)
They are honest, hardworking people.
Well, relatively speaking, many Lds indeed are honest...[although not necessarily honest with themselves about goals like becoming a god.
But the white-collar crime rate for decades doesn't reinforce this claim:
Utah's White-Collar crime reputation:
(The second note below shows this problem is endemic & specific to the Mormon church):
* ”Frustrated by the wave of fraud that by one estimate took $750 million out of Utahns' pocketbooks last year, regulators, law enforcement officials and attorneys are organizing a free 'Fraud College' next month in Utah County for the public to call attention to the problem and to try to combat it.” Source: Preying on the faithful: Though Mormons often victims, LDS Church skips fraud-prevention event
* Lds members have fleeced over $1.4 billion from fellow Mormons the past few years alone! Guess what? They initially didn't regret "doing business" with them, either!!!
Source: Mormons Now Losing Billions to Affinity Fraud
* This isn't new...Utah has long been host to the most per-capita fraud in America: Salt Lake City, with a mere 170,000 residents, is by far the country’s smallest city where the scam-fighting U.S. Securities & Exchange Commission has an office. It has been there since the early 1950s. Why? “There is a lot of fraud here per capita,” says local SEC boss Kenneth Israel. “There doesn’t seem to be any shortage of work for us.” [Source url: http://www.lds-mormon.com/6303056a.shtml ]
* Utah was #1 in mortgage fraud in America by 2001 when the FBI listed Utah as No. 1 in the country for the amount of mortgage fraud cases reported. [Source url: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600151169,00.html ]
Last I checked, this is America.....you know, freedom of religion.
Last I checked, this is America...you know, freedom of religion...including BTW, the freedom to critique other religions.
Sorry. But like some social engineer Web cop, you've gotten out of your vehicle on a busy two-way Web street, and put up unauthorized one-way signs. (Go take your signs down...religious comments don't HAVE TO be of a "positive" nature in order to qualify for your "freedom of religion" edict)
You and sportutegrl don't have self-authorized licenses to critique others that others don't have...Specifically, I'm reference you somehow implying GF has impinged upon or violated some incomplete notion of yours about "freedom of religion"...and sportutgrl bashing others based upon her personal standard of not bashing others...go figure both of your self-defeating statements out!!!
Perhaps you should roll on the floor, speak in tongues, and ask your lord why you are so special but the Mormons are not.
Perhaps you should stay still, hold a Bible in hand, and read how Jesus and the apostle Paul didn't speak so highly of the legalistic religionists of that day -- otherwise known as the Pharisees and teachers of the law. Was Paul, an ex-Pharisee, "special" -- and they weren't?
Are you criquing by extension of your comments people like Paul and Jesus? Were they too harsh on the Pharisees?
(Why do you seemingly fear religious vanities of other persuasions so much?)
Leave the Mormons, (Baptists, Unitarians, Episcopalians, Catholics, Buddhists, Atheists, Deists, Hindus, Church of Christists, etc. etc. etc.) alone. I might look at something dealing with Muslims, however.
(I'll say it again: If you are auditioning to become a god, of course, you'll be on your best behavior!)
(I'll say it a third time: If you are auditioning to become a god, of course, you'll be on your best behavior!)
As my lds cousin says they are perfect on the outside and rotten to the core inside for them it is all about image and money.
Sounds like your experience is like mine with the Baptist side of my family...rotten human beings, two-faced, watch your wallet types, but all believe they are heaven-bound...magritte
(And yet you can't leave Greyfoxx' religious comments alone...Why not? If your personal standard is to impose upon others your notion of leaving other religions alone? So it's only you that has a religious license not to leave other religions alone? ... like Greyfoxx??)
This thread's been rather interesting. I've seen more self-refuting statements than you can shake a stick out.
People will tell Greyfoxx39 NOT to do or say something
-- based upon a personal standard
-- a standard that if they applied to themselves
-- would wind up being something they should have self-changed or self-censored!!!
So, basically you're telling us that if religious people like Greyfoxx make religious statements you don't agree with, it's OK for YOU to "not leave" those comments alone, eh?
This thread is beginning to top the all-time list of the number of two-faced hypocrites I've seen...
So please tell us: Should we believe what you say (your personal standards) -- or what you DO? -- (your failure to leave GF's religious comments alone)
This was posted on the Religion Forum.
As Christians we are commanded to warn souls against false prophets - joseph smith was a false prophet and the lds leaders continue his work - hence the warning.
Are they?
(So a counterfeiter spreading a LOT of false $ in your, let's say, small town, or neighborhood, has absolutely no impact on your shopping, eh? How naive. It at least raises the cost of the goods you buy; serves as a further split of limited law enforcement & detective resources; opens the long-term door for more of your graduating teens in town to eventually head into this type of industry...etc. shall I go on? The repercussions are similar with religious counterfeits in terms of its impact upon your neighbors...which we were told by Christ to love)
(Yeah...well, please explain the mid portion of my post #44...then)
Exactly and totally my experience as well.
And yet you appear to be a mormonISM defender.
Yet, I bet they don’t pretend to be perfect.
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