Posted on 04/12/2011 7:55:27 AM PDT by bkaycee
I'm not anybody's victim. The culture of hate can do no harm to those whom Christ has saved. I am the child of God, ransomed by Christ's death and resurrection, and I do not fear those who foolishly try to destroy the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. The only reason anyone would do that is because they serve an evil master, not Christ Jesus, my Lord and Savior, Risen Son of Almight God.
Of course you have a tradition to uphold. It is based on a theory that dates back to the Reformation but which take several different forms as time wears on. The form you chose seems to date from the clash between the “New Lights,” and the “Old Lights” during the Great Awakening.
Nope. none.
It is based on a theory that dates back to the Reformation but which take several different forms as time wears on. The form you chose seems to date from the clash between the “New Lights,” and the “Old Lights” during the Great Awakening.
ROTFL! Try again.
Well, get off the floor. Your opinion is not original with you. What you say is very likewhat I heard growing up in East Texas and attending a Protestant Church. It is basically evangelical boiler plate.
Nope. I adhere to no tradition that I am aware of.
Excellent.
Yesyoudo.
John Calvin believed in the Real Presence, just not the words "flesh & blood" coupled along with it. That confirmed him a heretic in papal eyes.
He spoke of experiencing it, but not being able to properly describe it.
So I wonder. If he truly did partake of the essence of it, but had difficulty agreeing with the extent that the formulaic and fervently insisted upon orthodox/catholic wordings used to describe it, then how could he be so far wrong--- if the Lord Himself did indeed (by deep mystery?) did inhabit the offering?
http://theologytoday.ptsem.edu/jan1969/v25-4-bookreview7.htm
If it be in any way the flesh & blood, (mystical or no) after consecration, I do not believe that any form of "transubstantiation" or as Calvin perhaps put it(?) "substantially present" occurs without the sanctifying acceptance of believers, together in unison if at all possible, partaking of it.
Any left-overs can be utilized normally. That's what they did with the left-over bread in the earliest years of the church in Rome, isn't it? Took the left-overs home, distributed it to those who had need or could make use of it, and ate it like normal bread?
It wasn't sacrilege, then to dispose of the remaining ordinary parts of the bread or wine in such manner... Though there are ancient reports of various converts saying such as "I go to so-and-so's, the bread there is much better" etc., which hints at showing, that even wa-aay back, not all actually received, or in the least perceived or took note that they did, in their own spirit or soul.
Though I’ve been to other Christian Churches who spent 1/3rd of the service bashing Catholics. >>>
they and their flock knock Catholics frequently.
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