Posted on 04/06/2011 9:28:20 PM PDT by TaraP
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Hey Blasater,
Yes..I do understand animals are killed daily for food, however I also think animals have evolved by the way of human beings, that can be unhealthy for a human being, not that G-d ever created animals to be diseased or un-healthy but today many are, as we see in the bird flu crisis and every other kind of disease and bacteria that are affecting animals all over the planet, fish and wildlife coming up dead all over the globe and birds dying in mid-flight...
Also people today also have a love for animals they never did in biblical times, I would never propose to understand the mind of G-d when it comes to animal sacrafice because I don’t understand why it would return....
G-d honors gifts and our own sacrafices to him like fasting, good deeds loving him and our neighbors as ourselves, so why would G-d need animal sacrafice eternally?
I know many people that do not eat meat, strictly because of cardiovascular problems and or digestive problems....
Bird Flu can be airborne and affect even birds prepared for Kosher eating.....
Fish now are coming up radioactive (Japan Quake) and diseased by the oil spill....I think G-d wants us to use common sense when it comes to animals....
Animals in Biblical Times were much more healthy than what we have today...
Hi Tarah! Interesting that you would choose that verse. You are opposed to animal sacrifice but what G-d is saying here is dont worship like the pagans...among other things it is human sacrifice a few verses later...
Deut 12: 30 and after they(the gentile nations) have been destroyed before you, be careful not to be ensnared by inquiring about their gods, saying, “How do these nations serve their gods? We will do the same.” 31 You must not worship the LORD your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the LORD hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods.
G-d is telling them, hey, I told you how to worship me, so dont worship me like those guys, they do human sacrifice and I HATE IT, IT IS DETESTABLE!
And yet Christians ask us to then turn around and believe that God changed His mind, and required human sacrifice, and then it was the sacrifice of His own human son that God wanted? After telling the Jews to stay away from pagan practices, and pagan beliefs, God then changes His mind and says, "Okay, now go ahead and believe in a human sacrifice, just as these pagans believe?"
12: 32 See that you do all I command you; do not add to it or take away from it.
So why do Christians insist on adding to G-ds commands? He said not to and then you do! G-d says no human sacrifice and then you Christians claim a human sacrifice.
Interesting....
No where in the New Testament does it say that, even though 1/4 of it was written after the destruction of the Temple.
What quarter would that be? Both Peter and Paul were dead before 70AD so remove their epistles from that list. Irenieus says that Matthew was written before Peter and Paul were killed, so strike that from the list. Luke tells us in the opening statement of Acts that the Gospel he wrote preceded Acts, so we have AD 58-60 there. Mark doesn't mention the fall of the Temple which would seem appropriate in view of Mark 13, so that is predated. Hebrews is commonly believed to be written 62-64AD So basically you have John's writings, which according to many would not include Revelation and the epistles as many claim that also preceded 70AD. So what does that leave?
Read Acts 21. James asks, and Paul agrees to go himself and to pay for 4 others to complete their vow in the Temple.
Did you miss the part of shaving the head which is Nazarite vow? Part of the ceremonies observed at the end of the vow was indeed to sacrifice critters.
1 Cor 9:20-22 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law. To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
Of course this couldn't be any motivation whatsoever for Paul to do what he did.
There will be a temple for Jews to worship in Revelation times. In order to have a temple, the Jewish need to have a place of worship in Jerusalem. Sacrifice is one element of that worship.
Even though, according to Hebrews in the NT, that is utter blasphemy?
Why would your god promote and facilitate blaspheming him - especially since we have had Muslims as a millennia old enforcement mechanism to insure against such a thing?
Why didn't they take over the Temple Mount during their War of Independence? Or the Six-Day War when they clearly had gained control of East Jerusalem for many years? Dittos when they won the Yom Kippur war which was about taking back those lands? I submit that the reason there was no Temple rebuilt there was because very few, if any, within the secular socialist nation of Israel cared about a Temple because of all the trouble rebuilding it would entail. The only ones who want to see a Temple rebuilt there are Western Dispensationalists, who want it there to satisfy their fantasy in seeing 2/3rd of the world's Jews slaughtered.
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Religious Zionists are less than 10% of Israeli voters. Can they take meaningful practical steps without approval of Agudath Israel of America, and Agudath and Moetzet Chachmei HaTorah of Israel?
You are right, and the temple at Jerusalem leads to the abomination of desolation, in which the Jews realize that the “messiah” that they praised so vehemently is actually the Antichrist.
The Antichrist will actually bring a false peace between the Jews and the muslims, in order for them to catch the Jews off guard and slaughter them wholly. This will probably occur after years of unsuccessful attacks on Israel, in much the same way that muslims are attempting to destabilize America today.
This is my guess from reading Daniel and Revelation.
Yes, Moshiach will bring all into unity.
>You said it. Too much guessing, not enough quoting Scripture.
Daniel 11 pretty much describes the man.
Daniel 9:27 (ASV) “And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease; and upon the wing of abominations [shall come] one that maketh desolate; and even unto the full end, and that determined, shall [wrath] be poured out upon the desolate.”
Daniel 11:31 (ASV) “And forces shall stand on his part, and they shall profane the sanctuary, even the fortress, and shall take away the continual [burnt-offering], and they shall set up the abomination that maketh desolate.”
Daniel 12:11 (ASV) “And from the time that the continual [burnt-offering] shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand and two hundred and ninety days.”
Matthew 24:15-26 (ESV) “So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.”
Mark 13:14 (ESV) “But when you see the abomination of desolation standing where it ought not to be (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.”
Luke 21.20-21 (ESV) “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains…”
Again, I’m no expert in eschatology, but I do read the Bible and it’s commentaries.
This would be no less an abomination than what the Romans did in AD70. Apostate Jews have no standing before God to conduct rituals that deny the crucified and risen Lord Jesus Christ, true Messiah of Israel.
>>Like I said, too much guessing.
Well, sorry then. I’ll wait until you send me your time machine.
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