Joseph Smith Is Tarred and Feathered [LDS lesson in children's class ages 8-11]

LDS.org Primary ^ | 1977

[Tread EZ]

if the swastika fits.....

[Vendome]

You keep going with these non sequitors and it’s getting old.

Are you Jewish?

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“if the swastika fits.....

..............

Once someone has to invoke Hitler to try to prove their point,
I take it as a clear sign they got nothin’.

As such, that makes you simply a troll. Even worse, a n00b troll. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Find some FACTS and try again. Otherwise, you are just a hater.

[Vendome]

I looked for the source but couldn’t find it

[Tread EZ]

I never mentioned Hitler

[Vendome]

Bye or IBTZ.

Either way.

[bcsco]

As such, that makes you simply a troll. Even worse, a n00b troll. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Now I think we're getting somewhere. All this stuff about it's wrong on FR to discuss different religions has it's purpose, and the swastika comment makes everything clear.

We have a Noob, who's very willing to resort to abusive references in a thread where he's argued ""My thesis is that these anti-mormon threads are unAmerican, and by extension, un-FR." A thread where we're discussing differences between Mormonism and Christian beliefs.

Yep, he's a poseur for sure. The Viking Kitties would love this.

[bcsco]

He forgot to live up to his username...

[bcsco]

I never mentioned Hitler

Didn't have to. 'Swastika' has only one implication. Time to call in the Kitties...

[restornu]

I don’t think we are “Apostates and Whores of Babylon” but they most certainly do.

Who’s that hate-uh?

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Vendome how do you arrive to that conclusion?

When the doctrine of the Church adheres to the words of Jesus in

John 14

1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

The doctrine of the Church believes in the 3 degress of glory, therefore if one choose not to accept the covenant of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, but stills believe in Jesus Christ, according to the Church they would still receive a degree of glory and not resign to outter darkness as you claim!

[greyfoxx39]

I am not a Jew and I am not “baiting” any discussion. My thesis is that these anti-mormon threads are unAmerican, and by extension, un-FR.

My thesis is that if one can't stand the heat, they should leave the kitchen. All the kvetching and complaining in the world will not convince anyone that you have the right to decide what is "unAmerican or un-FR".

As I mentioned before, your posts keep my thread going...and more lurkers are given the opportunity to view the article. Thanks.

[bcsco]

The doctrine of the Church believes in the 3 degress of glory, therefore if one choose not to accept the covenant of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, but stills believe in Jesus Christ, according to the Church they would still receive a degree of glory and not resign to outter darkness as you claim!

Thank you for bringing that up. It illustrates something I've often wondered about. Where did Jesus teach the '3 degrees of glory'? I've wondered about that yet have yet to find a Biblical reference. Can you help?

[restornu]

Further, they hide these facts from anyone until they have been converted. That’s deceit and God isn’t a liar.

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really as a convert in 1982 before the internet I was able to find all those things and more and when I encounter them I would take it to the Lord on my knees in humble prayer to understand.

I am so thankful for that because it was a joy to have the spirit of the Lord with me each step of the way to teach me and help me to discern.

The sweet gentle spirit of the Lord will not exist where there is contention.

sadly the Holy Ghost will depart so all that seems to remain is dross which is daily posted about the LDS from many anits and detractors!

[Vendome]

Thank you Resty and that is my understanding of the difference in doctrine.

[Vendome]

I may be wrong but “when” did Mormons actually start considering themselves Christian.

By that I mean, when did they become inclusive to and of the rest of Christianity.

It had been my understanding for the last two years they were completely separate and distinctly different with all other “sects” being inferior or subsumed to theirs.

I’ll check in later. I have to eat something. I am starving.

[Vendome]

+1 and thanks Resty.

[restornu]

Just to let you know FR has sided with the antis against the LDS!

[aMorePerfectUnion]

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[greyfoxx39]

if one choose not to accept the covenant of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, but stills believe in Jesus Christ, according to the Church they would still receive a degree of glory and not resign to outter darkness as you claim!

And....HERE is the "degree of glory" that is being referred to if one does not "accept the covenant of the mormon church"...

The Telestial Kingdom

The Lord compared telestial glory to that of the stars (see D&C 76:81). Those who shall inherit this kingdom are those who:

• Rejected the gospel, the testimony of Jesus, the prophets, and the everlasting covenant (see D&C 76:82, 101).

• Were liars, sorcerers, adulterers, and whoremongers (see D&C 76:103).

• Loved “and [made] a lie” (D&C 76:103).

Among other blessings and limitations, those who inherit the telestial kingdom will:

• Suffer the wrath of God on earth (see D&C 76:104) and not be redeemed from the devil until the last resurrection, which will take place after the Millennium (see D&C 76:85). 3

• Be denied the Savior’s fulness (see D&C 76:86).

• Be able to receive the Holy Ghost through the ministration of beings in higher glories (see D&C 76:86–88).

• Never be able to come where God and Christ dwell.

NOTE: " Rejected the gospel, the testimony of Jesus, the prophets, and the everlasting covenant (see D&C 76:82, 101)." is mormon-speak for rejecting the mormon religion.

This is an example of lies told continually by mormons, about mormon doctrine.

[svcw]

I loath any religion that mocks Jesus Christ.
Your statement however is misdirection.
Just because I loath any religion that mocks Jesus Christ, does not automatically mean that I would stop them from worshiping as they see fit, as it conversely does not mean in anyway that I will stop calling them out.