Posted on 01/11/2011 12:47:22 PM PST by marshmallow
Ping!
The protestant reformation is simply not Biblical:
I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. My brothers, some from Chloe's household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. What I mean is this: One of you says, "I follow Paul"; another, "I follow Apollos"; another, "I follow Cephas"; still another, "I follow Christ." Is Christ divided? 1Cor 1:10-14
You could easily read the above as One of you says, "I follow Luther"; another, "I follow Calvin"; another, "I follow Wesley"; still another, "I follow Christ."
Christians cannot be perfectly united in mind and thought when they have different beliefs on, say, the necessity of water baptism, while others believe This is my Body means This is a cookie
We know from Scripture that the basic premise of Protestantism cannot be true:
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Mat 6:18
I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. John 16:12-13
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth. 1Tim 3:15
Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." Mat 28:18-20
Fortunately, we have Christs promise that heresies will never prevail against the Church. They will arise, endure sometimes for centuries, like Protestantism, but we can be confident in Christs promise that the Church He established will always teach the Truth.
“BenKenobi”
“Obi Wan Kenobi.
Now, that’s a name I haven’t heard in a looooong time.
A long time.”
“That wizard’s just a crazy old man”
Welcome FRiend. :)
I believe 1,783 angels can dance on the head of a pin.
Your view?
I should specify that this a metric pin; english pins may differ.
Our concern is not that they will be with us, but that they will not.
The protestant reformation was a rejection of the catholic church, which is basically a medieval monarchy designed to rule men. This offshoot from the early church claims to be the sole heir of all legacy of Christ, yet never notices that Christ never established a government, asked for immense buildings to be built in his honor, or expected anyone to bow down to him. Furthermore, he never created any hierarchy for man to relate to God. Look at how Christ lived on earth, then at the vatican, or at the leaders of most large organized protestant churches, the mormons, etc. The contrast is almost comical.
Catholics are christian, nothing more, nothing less. In terms of this article, they are sect number 26001,,,, that’s it.
Oh, you fundamentalist Catholics! SOOOOO Cute!
This book actually looks good. As an instructor in Christian/Church History, I’d like to get a copy for our College Library, though its subject matter does tend to be limited, as the reviewer points out....
The fact remains, that if even one person was executed or tortured by a church claiming to hold the sole legacy of Christ, that it lost whatever claim to the title it ever may have had. Jesus didnt murder.
“which is basically a medieval monarchy designed to rule men”
Which is why the Church resides in Rome?
Sadly then, it couldn’t be Luther. This is the point this article is trying to drive home.
You have hit on the correct point. Christ did not murder. But Christ did not sin at all.
How can His Church be His Church if the Church is comprised of Sinners? Does he not say, “no one is worthy, not one?” or “Be ye perfect!”
Exactly
You’re right, back in those days, the catholic church never imprisoned, tortured, or had any heretics burned. So I wouldn’t even worry about it if I were you. But yes,, the church at the time if the reformation was not anything of jesus, and the reform was fully justified.
And a very sane reading if it all is that the roman church split away from christianity by trying to become the ultimate superior, rather than an equal among the early churches,,, as christ intended.
Rome isn’t medieval. ;)
it’s probably just a coincidence you, but rome was seat of political power in medieval western europe after the split of the roman empire.
My opinion?
“Many who are outside will be inside, and those inside, outside.”
That doesn’t give protestants a pass by arguing because they are outside that they shouldn’t be concerned. A great number of those who consider themselves protestants have strayed.
Fr’instance, if we know now, that hormonal contraception can be an abortifacient, what concern does that make for us, when we know virtually all Protestants permit the use of hormonal contraception?
Look, Rome is ancient, and the Church is ancient. She also is absolutist, but not a monarchy, an absolutist elective republic, the only one of it’s kind.
So let’s get it straight here. She’s neither a monarchy (which is hereditary), nor is she medieval.
Nor was she the seat of power in Medieval western Europe. That would be Aachen.
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