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PROPITIATION : The FINISHED WORK of Christ on the CROSS
2010 | bibletruth

Posted on 12/11/2010 8:23:13 AM PST by bibletruth

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which includes the presupposition that men can lose their salvation

So do I ever get an answer? I’ll repeat that which hasn’t been answered by you or others who share your beliefs.

Feeling pretty secure? – there’s a verse for that: "Whoever thinks he is standing secure should take care not to fall" (1 Cor. 10:11–12).

You indeed might just be saved: “Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father: Galatians 1:4

But only IF you remain in his kindness. "See, then, the kindness and severity of God: severity toward those who fell, but God’s kindness to you, provided you remain in his kindness, otherwise you too will be cut off" Rom. 11:22–23

And only IF you endure: Here is a trustworthy saying: If we died with him,we will also live with him; if we endure, we will also reign with him. (2 Tim. 2:11–12).

And only IF you stand firm: [Jesus said] “All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.” Mark 13:13

And only IF you do what God wants: “God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. (Rom. 2:6–8).

Clearly, what you do is rewarded by God. Like Paul, who was ‘working out my salvation in fear and trembling’ (Phil. 2:12), knowing that it is God’s gift of Grace that is working in him.

You belief goes against the clear words of Scripture. And yes, there is a special verse for that: “ vain is the belief of those who go against the word of God”. 1st Corinthians 15:2

I am simply quoting Scripture. ALL of Scripture. If these verses do not mean what they clearly say, help me understand them. But address these verses, not just the ones your itching ears wish to hear.

61 posted on 12/12/2010 6:26:08 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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They do NOT believe that once a person has believed in or upon the Lord Jesus Christ and has received Him as their Saviour, that they are born again of God [John 3:5-8]; and that they become the sons of God [John 1:12-13], and saints, and of the household of God [Ephesians 2:18-22]; and that once they are born again that they are in the Father’s & in the Son’s Hands [John 10:27-29] and are sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise [Ephesians 1:12-14; 4:30] - with absolutely no possibility of losing their ETERNAL LIFE (i.e. their SALVATION) or their sonship.

What is most interesting is that you quote Scripture, EXCEPT for your non-biblical conclusion.

62 posted on 12/13/2010 2:11:38 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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* crickets *


63 posted on 12/14/2010 4:35:20 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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Their lack of response speaks volumes.


64 posted on 12/15/2010 11:07:42 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: evangmlw; bibletruth

Still waiting


65 posted on 12/18/2010 4:31:56 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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