Comrade Lennon

http://billrandles.wordpress.com ^ | 12-08-10 | Bill Randles

[pastorbillrandles]

you are right, my bad, I should have said, “for the ex Beatle”-

[pastorbillrandles]

I don’t blame Viet Nam on him, I am only saying that when the USA unilaterally acquiesced to the leftist movement for which he was an advocate, it resulted in wanton slaughter.

[pastorbillrandles]

what do you mean ?

[Mariner]

There you go with the "influence" thing again.

I am not influenced by Lennon nor have I ever been.

I just admire his amazing talent and can't figure out why anyone, pro or con, would take anything he had to say seriously.

[pastorbillrandles]

Well I agree,in fact their influence is vast, but are they not of the post WW2 baby Boom?

[pastorbillrandles]

Wow, that is powerful and wonderful, I hope it is true- God loves everyone, and is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance

[pastorbillrandles]

Zuriel, I don’t care either how famous a person is, I am interested in any saint or sinner God puts in my path, But Lennon still influences a generation , therefore “Wisdom cries out in the streets”. John the Baptist wasn’t un interested in ordnary sinners, but it was Herod whom he called out about his adultery, why? Because as a visible leader he was an example for evil.

[pastorbillrandles]

I believe you Mariner, when you say you aren’t influenced by him, I am glad to hear that and true I enjoy Bach,Mozart and Beethoven and haven’t been influenced by them in any way that I know of either- I get that. But Lennon did influence millions, with his Atheism, Nihilism, Amoral approach to marriage and sexuality, and hid drug promotion, and as a minister I have a responsibility to adress this from a God centered perspective. Thanks for the comments

[Mariner]

What about the 100's of other famous people who believed the same, or worse?

Wagner as an anti-semite?

The perverse sexuality of all the female singers of any decade since 1980?

Ozzy Osbourne?

Will you be taking on these folks too?

I'm asking you, directly, why only Lennon?

Do you believe his influence was more than all of theirs combined? Really?

[pastorbillrandles]

Listen I am not singling Lennon out, in fact I know I am just as much a sinner as him, Ozzy, grace slick or any of the rockers. But as a teachable moment, when the Beatles are prominantly being featured to yet another generation, as a christian minister I feel the responsibility to adress this. One of the posters on this thread actually posted a very hopeful article which implied that Lennon may well have become a christian before he died. I hope so! ,

[ansel12]

I am only saying that when the USA unilaterally acquiesced to the leftist movement

That never happened, the Vietnam war was about the incompetence and liberalism of the adult generations running America from the 1930s to the 1970s.

[ansel12]

The Beatles, The Doors, William Ayers, John McCain, Jane Fonda, Janis Joplin, etc, were born of the “Silent Generation”, 1925-1945.

John Lennon’s son Julian, and Sarah Palin, are boomers.

[5thGenTexan]

Don't blame Vietnam and Korea on a rock star, blame them on the people in government, and the military and the voting booths, especially blame the 45 to 65 year old leaders.

I think his point was to show that the Communist Utopia Lennon hoped for would not work and was not good for the people living under it - not that Lennon caused it.

[patriot08]

Whatever..but what great music they made:

Yesterday
Something
Let it Be
In My Life
Twist and Shout

[Infidel Heather]

He did not die instantly, I think-— he may have had time to repent, make his peace with Christ, and then welcomed into Heaven.

I sure hope that is what happened—only the Lord knows. :)

[Augustinian monk]

Greetings Pastor,

You took some flak on this one LOL! I enjoy your articles but I’ve come to the conclusion that the whole America lost her innocence in the sixties theme is a myth. I believe the Sixties was the culmination or fruition of the direction the country had been on for some time. America had already drifted from core principles of the protestant reformation(High view of Christ, high view of Scripture, low view of man). Of course I am speaking of the population in general. America began to flirt with the occult/ cults and false teachers( “restoration movements/ mormonism/ jehova witnesses). Also the social gospel became popular in the 1800’s after the Great Awakening. BY the beginning of of the 20th century once faithful seminaries and university founded by bible believing Christians had already been polluted by liberals and unbelievers. We reap what we sow.

[pastorbillrandles]

I would agree with you , but the sixties are a point of contact of communication for this generation, a definite crystalization of the various trends you mentioned. BTW did you see the post abut the possible Lennon conversion to Christ? Interesting. Thanks for the comments and I am glad you like the threads-stay in touch- Pas Bill

[pastorbillrandles]

Thanks-

[pastorbillrandles]

So do I infidel H- did you see the post on this thread that implied this? We can only hope and pray-Thanks for the comment- Pas Bill

[Augustinian monk]

I don’t know if he truly converted but I did read that he became interested in the teachings Oral Roberts and Pat Robertson. I thought the Oral Roberts connection was especially interesting because he was also dabbling in eastern religion in that same time period. I wonder if he found common thread with Word of Faith teachers?