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Was Mary Sinless?
The Aristophrenium ^ | 12/05/2010 | " Fisher"

Posted on 12/05/2010 6:14:57 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: Dr. Eckleburg
LOL. We could have called that one.

No but my better half did. She gets lonely sometimes and it's so much easier for me to get up and walk over to her and play it than her to walk to me :>} I had already told her "I'll be there in a minute" before I posted that post. I'm addicted to SSX snowboard games what can I say. 30 minutes a day habit actually.

2,401 posted on 12/11/2010 1:37:41 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: boatbums

LOL.


2,402 posted on 12/11/2010 1:39:29 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Lera; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...
Quixicated:

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This has nothing to do with Mary.

The Proverb is Messianic and tells us just like these other verses below that the WORD was there from the very beginning. Mary is NOT the WORD and she can not save anyone.

Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

Genesis 1:26 And Elohim said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the livestock, and over all the earth and over all the creeping creatures that creep on the earth.”

Isaiah 6:8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

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BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD>

Mat 12:
47Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
48But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
49And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
50For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. King James Version (KJV)

Obedience Is Thicker than Blood
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46-47While he was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers showed up. They were outside trying to get a message to him. Someone told Jesus, "Your mother and brothers are out here, wanting to speak with you."
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48-50Jesus didn't respond directly, but said, "Who do you think my mother and brothers are?" He then stretched out his hand toward his disciples. "Look closely. These are my mother and brothers. Obedience is thicker than blood. The person who obeys my heavenly Father's will is my brother and sister and mother."
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The Message (MSG)
Copyright © 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2000, 2001, 2002 by Eugene H. Peterson
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NEW AMERICAN STD VERS:
MAT 12:
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Changed Relationships
46(BB)While He was still speaking to the crowds, behold, His (BC)mother and (BD)brothers were standing outside, seeking to speak to Him.
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47Someone said to Him, "Behold, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside seeking to speak to You."
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48But Jesus answered the one who was telling Him and said, "Who is My mother and who are My brothers?"
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49And stretching out His hand toward His disciples, He said, "Behold My mother and My brothers!
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50"For whoever does the will of My Father who is in heaven, he is My brother and sister and mother."
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A. Matthew 12:46 : Matt 13:55; Mark 6:3; John 2:12; 7:3, 5, 10; Acts 1:14; 1 Cor 9:5; Gal 1:19

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For anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear, that and similar verses conclusively put to rest all the Maryolatry, blasphemy, heresies. Alas, idol worshipers through the ages have been extremely resistent to the truth . . . until the earth opens up and swallows them up--as after the golden calf in the wilderness . . . such days are coming again sooner than most folks realize.

2,403 posted on 12/11/2010 2:19:04 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Cronos

Mat 12:
47Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
48But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
49And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
50For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
King James Version (KJV)

Obedience Is Thicker than Blood
46-47While he was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers showed up. They were outside trying to get a message to him. Someone told Jesus, “Your mother and brothers are out here, wanting to speak with you.”
48-50Jesus didn’t respond directly, but said, “Who do you think my mother and brothers are?” He then stretched out his hand toward his disciples. “Look closely. These are my mother and brothers. Obedience is thicker than blood. The person who obeys my heavenly Father’s will is my brother and sister and mother.”
The Message (MSG)
Copyright © 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2000, 2001, 2002 by Eugene H. Peterson

NEW AMERICAN STD VERS:
MAT 12:
Changed Relationships
46(BB)While He was still speaking to the crowds, behold, His (BC)mother and (BD)brothers were standing outside, seeking to speak to Him.
47Someone said to Him, “Behold, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside seeking to speak to You.”
48But Jesus answered the one who was telling Him and said, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?”
49And stretching out His hand toward His disciples, He said, “Behold My mother and My brothers!
50”For whoever does the will of My Father who is in heaven, he is My brother and sister and mother.”
A. Matthew 12:46 : Matt 13:55; Mark 6:3; John 2:12; 7:3, 5, 10; Acts 1:14; 1 Cor 9:5; Gal 1:19


2,404 posted on 12/11/2010 2:21:12 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

IT IS AN

ANTI-BIBLICAL FANTASY

because it is solidly against Biblical truths as repeatedly stated in God-Breathed Scripture.


2,405 posted on 12/11/2010 2:22:06 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

There are constantly new lurkers as well as older lurkers—neutral to many things related to the Vatican and/or on the fence in terms of approach/avoidance—who just haven’t happened to have read the truths of such Vatican edifice idolatry, blasphemy, heresies.

They deserve the truth, too.


2,406 posted on 12/11/2010 2:23:44 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: cva66snipe

I greatly agree.

And I demonstrate that repeatedly with RC’s who care to engage me—particularly in persistent civility, mutual respect, reasonableness etc.

However, the horrors of idolatry, blasphmy and gross heresy are sometimes more than worth some fierce communications—particularly in the face of outrageously fierce and brazenly false communications from the other side.

I have no intention of always allowing the side of the Bible and Truth to be cast as wimpy, neutered, empty, silent.


2,407 posted on 12/11/2010 2:27:37 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Deo volente

A tiresome straw dog yet again.

Everyone knows that Proddys are talking about folks who’ve graduated from this life.

Sheesh.


2,408 posted on 12/11/2010 2:28:19 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

INDEED.


2,409 posted on 12/11/2010 2:29:14 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
[The Vatican Alice In Wonderland School of Theology and Reality Mangling]
catechism says:
Mary participates with Christ
in the salvation of men.

[The VAIWSOTARM] popes teach that Mary is a "co-redeemer."

[The VAIWSOTARM] catechism is littered with heresy.

YUP.

2,410 posted on 12/11/2010 2:34:49 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: cva66snipe

Largely true.

However, the Pope’s firm Encyclical assertions in behalf of the satanic globalist world government oligarchy are now a matter of record.


2,411 posted on 12/11/2010 2:36:40 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Cronos

I don’t recall anything unBiblical from her.

I do know of tons of stuff very helpful to millions, as you note.


2,412 posted on 12/11/2010 2:37:54 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
However, the Pope’s firm Encyclical assertions in behalf of the satanic globalist world government oligarchy are now a matter of record.

Hum. One world government is going to be attempted and for a period of a few years achieved.

Let me ask you something though. What would you call a group of persons who all lived in one area, owned no property or possessions among themselves, and shared everything? The people let's say sold their houses and gave to a common treasury for the common good as needed? What type of persons would do such? Could it work?

2,413 posted on 12/11/2010 2:59:21 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe
It's late and I got a busy day after while. Here's the answer. It was The Twelve Disciples of Christ Acts ch 3-5. What happened? They were scattered. Why? Because of persecution of the Christians by both the Jewish leaders and the Roman government.

My point? Taken out of context I could cut and paste two chapters of Acts and well you know what I mean. Of course The Lord did not intend for them to form this He told them Go into all nations. For the better or worse the Pope LIKE OUR POTUS is GOD's chosen leader of the Vatican and Catholic Church just as Obama is the president of The USA. My personal feeling is He may well be the last of what was once Conservative church leadership. To The Roman Catholic Church Doctrine he is conservative in his leadership in realtion to the Roman Catholic Doctories and Dogma as near as I can tell.

I didn't read the text of what he supposedly said in it's complete entirety nor more important do I know to WHOM it was addressed to and for what reason.

2,415 posted on 12/11/2010 3:39:43 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: daniel1212

And you don’t place your own spin on what you present? Though I will commend you for not being blatant.

If the Pope in 382 says “this is the canon”, well, it sounds to me like he’s listing the canon. The deuterocanonical books were in lists I quoted. There might have been disagreements, but they were there.

I wish I had more time to do your posts justice, but I have to work for a living!


2,416 posted on 12/11/2010 3:53:39 AM PST by shurwouldluv_a_smallergov
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

More hypocrisy....


2,417 posted on 12/11/2010 5:24:31 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

BTW, thank you for your service for our country.


2,418 posted on 12/11/2010 5:26:17 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Deo volente
Where in the Bible does it say that the Bible is the ENTIRE revealed truth about God?

Show us some revealed truth about God that was not revealed in the Bible...

2,419 posted on 12/11/2010 6:38:32 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: fabian
There are plenty of people who are blessed and no longer sin. Being born again means there is no longer a bad spirit that compels us to sin. That is a fact!

Here's a better fact...

1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

The fact is, we all still sin but the sin is not laid to our account...

2,420 posted on 12/11/2010 6:52:13 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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