Was Mary Sinless?

The Aristophrenium ^ | 12/05/2010 | " Fisher"

[presently no screen name]

From the Catechism of the Catholic Church, if you dare:

Read the catechism is you dare

.....as true authors, consigned to writing everything and only those things which He wanted.”

[Natural Law]

"There it is in black and white in your own post, and somehow Roman Catholics still miss it.

Astounding that Catholics miss what isn't there? Good thing we didn't miss what is there as you have so obviously done;

In keeping with the Lord's command, the Gospel was handed by the apostles by the spoken word of their preaching, by the example they gave, by the institutions they established, what they themselves had received - whether from the lips of Christ, from his way of life and his works, or whether they had learned it at the prompting of the Holy Spirit In order that the full and living Gospel might always be preserved in the Church the apostles left bishops as their successors. They gave them their own position of teaching authority. Indeed, the apostolic preaching, which is expressed in a special way in the inspired books, was to be preserved in a continuous line of succession until the end of time. This living transmission, accomplished in the Holy Spirit, is called Tradition.

[Quix]

I wonder if I can find a gif of the horse race thing at Ascott from MY FAIR LADY.

Especially a second after the

MOVE YER BLOOMIN _____

MOMENT.

[Quix]

I don’t think I’d go that far . . . but it is hazardous

particularly merely based on bias, !!!!TRADITION!!!!

and other

Vatican Alice In Wonderland School of Theology and Reality Mangling

fantasies.

[presently no screen name]

I know, just thought we were being invited.

[lastchance]

The quote is from Dei Verbum, I did not include the part of the written Scripture being one part of the fullness of faith.
“In His gracious goodness, God has seen to it that what He had revealed for the salvation of all nations would abide perpetually in its full integrity and be handed on to all generations. Therefore Christ the Lord in whom the full revelation of the supreme God is brought to completion (see Cor. 1:20; 3:13; 4:6), commissioned the Apostles to preach to all men that Gospel which is the source of all saving truth and moral teaching, (1) and to impart to them heavenly gifts. This Gospel had been promised in former times through the prophets, and Christ Himself had fulfilled it and promulgated it with His lips. This commission was faithfully fulfilled by the Apostles who, by their oral preaching, by example, and by observances handed on what they had received from the lips of Christ, from living with Him, and from what He did, or what they had learned through the prompting of the Holy Spirit. The commission was fulfilled, too, by those Apostles and apostolic men who under the inspiration of the same Holy Spirit committed the message of salvation to writing. (2)

But in order to keep the Gospel forever whole and alive within the Church, the Apostles left bishops as their successors, “handing over” to them “the authority to teach in their own place.”(3) This sacred tradition, therefore, and Sacred Scripture of both the Old and New Testaments are like a mirror in which the pilgrim Church on earth looks at God, from whom she has received everything, until she is brought finally to see Him as He is, face to face (see 1 John 3:2).”

[lastchance]

Is English not your first language? That would rather limit our discussion.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

This living transmission, accomplished in the Holy Spirit, is called Tradition.

LOLOL. Exactly like the liberals who believe in the "living Constitution" which can be altered and changed on a whim.

Your own catechism says the writings of Scripture were authored by God.

And then that same catechism hedges its bet and says something else.

"All things to all people" does not the Christian distinctive make.

[Quix]

LOL

You might be invited.

Dr E and I? Never.

It’s against their

RELIGION

and

their

!!!!TRADITIONS!!!!

[Religion Moderator]

Do not toy with other Freeper’s names and do not make it personal.

[lastchance]

St. Paul was not like Mohammed. I’ll let you figure that one out by your own self. Use a net.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Is English not your first language? That would rather limit our discussion.

lol. Ad hominems reveal a lack of sound argument. You lose.

[RnMomof7]

I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel. (Genesis 3:15)
The Virgin Mary and Jesus share the SAME enmities here. What do you think they are?

...First lets have a correct quotation here Wag...

KJV.Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

RSV

Gen 3:15 I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel."literal Translation

Gen 3:15 and enmity I put between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; he doth bruise thee -- the head, and thou dost bruise him -- the heel.'

Your misquotation of the scripture makes Mary the "actor" and not Jesus Christ..

The Virgin Mary and Jesus share the SAME enmities here. What do you think they are?

Wag, satan is the enemy of all that claim Christ.. Any enemy of Christ and His gospel is my enemy and the enemy of His bride

And she cried out with a loud voice, and said: Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. (Luke 1:42)

Blessed does not mean sinless .. blessed means blessed

1) to praise, celebrate with praises
2) to invoke blessings
3) to consecrate a thing with solemn prayers
a) to ask God's blessing on a thing
b) pray God to bless it to one's use
c) pronounce a consecratory blessing on
4) of God
a) to cause to prosper, to make happy, to bestow blessings on b) favoured of God, blessed

Luk 11:27 ¶ And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed [is] the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.

Luk 11:28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed [are] they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

Elizabeth was welcoming her cousin, bestowing a blessing on her and the child with in her womb ... She was not declaring mary sinless

The Virgin Mary and Jesus share the SAME blessing here. What do you think it is?

A blessing, a prayer from their cousin ...

[verity]

He sits at the left hand of God. lol

[presently no screen name]

EVERYTHING God wants us to know about Him, about our salvation is written. Jesus is THE WORD, the WORD made flesh. HE always was, and will be. HE is not tradition. Evil attaches itself to good - that how it survives.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

St. Paul was not like Mohammed. I’ll let you figure that one out by your own self. Use a net.

Protestants don't believe Mohammad was a brother in Christ which is apparently what RCs believe.

[presently no screen name]

Jesus is The Word, He says come to HIM - His Word.

Oral tradition says comes to me.

[Alex Murphy]

Free agency? You mean the authors of Scripture wrote something other than what God wanted written?....Did Paul have the "free will" to go off script and write his own dialogue?

Despite claims that the Catholic Church determined the canon of the Bible, that the Catholic Church wrote the Bible, that the Catholic Church preserved the Bible....

I get the distinct impression that in a Catholic world, only Popes are capable of infallibility.

[Natural Law]

"Probably because many of them have joined the OPC and the PCA."

Many? I am not aware of more than two, other than a couple of recovering alcoholics and a hideously henpecked husband........

[Dr. Eckleburg]

“It (Scripture) is without error and is infallible and binding upon the faithful.”

Great news. Tell that to Wagglebee and other RCs on this forum who work so feverishly to dismiss Paul. Just look at the quotes on Gamecock’s homepage to see how some RC’s view God’s work through Paul...

http://www.freerepublic.com/~gamecock/index?U=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freerepublic.com%2Fperl%2Fpings