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Lennon;Whose Minstrel Was He? pt 1
http://billrandles.wordpress.com/ ^ | 11-04-10 | Bill Randles

Posted on 12/04/2010 7:03:56 PM PST by pastorbillrandles

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To: Revolting cat!

I would have answered, “Dung Beetle”.


81 posted on 12/04/2010 9:00:51 PM PST by irishtenor (All that I say, all that I do, is predestined.)
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To: big'ol_freeper
"They say the Lord helps those who helps themselves,"

Well at least he was a fan of Benjamin Franklin, a great American.

82 posted on 12/04/2010 9:01:19 PM PST by strongbow
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To: sueuprising
So what?

You go and like what you like, and I'll like what I like and neither of us have to preach to the other.

84 posted on 12/04/2010 9:10:27 PM PST by Sto Zvirat
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To: pastorbillrandles

Stop beating a dead Beatle.
He was who he was, a flawed and foolish but very
talented human being.
Besides, we shouldn’t be in the market for ‘minstrels’
or any other kind of God or demigod.
We should learn from all these true-life lessons
and gain some perspective on the oddness and unpredictability of human life.
“Some will say I’m a dreamer
but I’m not the only one...”
An inspired line in a song that makes lots of people
puke, all these many years later.


85 posted on 12/04/2010 9:18:26 PM PST by supremedoctrine (Come closer. I want to get a better look at you.)
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To: supremedoctrine
Those are good points.

Lennon advocated peace and practiced capitalism - a little something for everybody.

People who think he was some kind of cultural trailblazer ought to turn back the clock another ten years to the Fifties and check out the likes of Little Richard and Jerry Lee Lewis (whose third wife was his 13 year old cousin).

86 posted on 12/04/2010 9:32:03 PM PST by Walts Ice Pick
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To: pastorbillrandles
"Lennon was no doubt a profoundly gifted musician and lyricist,"

Well, at least you gave him his due for the only thing he was important for.

To suggest he was somehow responsible for the destruction of Judeo/Christian society is ludicrous.

Lennon was no more than a melodic genius and superb singer.

To suggest more gives credence to the concept that artists actually have anything to SAY that's worth hearing.

87 posted on 12/04/2010 9:52:34 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Liberty Valance
Thanks. I never saw that video before.

Incredible voice.

88 posted on 12/04/2010 10:00:45 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: pastorbillrandles

John Lennon was a brilliant songwriter and musician. I don’t agree with his political views or his social views, but who goes to musicians for that? Blaming various societal ills on a musician is silly - people are going to do what they’re going to do, and some will try to fob off their choices and actions on culture, politics, all sorts of lame scapegoats. Whether we admit it or not, most of us know perfectly well what we’re doing and no pop culture figure has anything to do with it.


89 posted on 12/04/2010 10:14:10 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: reasonisfaith
"delivered in what were essentially remixes of musical patterns which have on a fundamental level been known to man for thousands of years."

The same could be said of Beethoven or Wagner.

You're a hater.

90 posted on 12/04/2010 10:16:42 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Mariner

You’re welcome. Thanks for the kind reply.


91 posted on 12/04/2010 10:33:08 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Mariner

Ever hear the song “God” by Lennon? He says he didn’t believe in anything but himself. Yoko made him change the last line to “Yoko and me”.


92 posted on 12/04/2010 11:48:23 PM PST by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: MotorCityBuck

in his 1970 solo song “God”, “I was the walrus, but now I’m John.”


93 posted on 12/05/2010 4:36:26 AM PST by Renegade
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To: Snickering Hound

Rock and roll’s Jackie O?


94 posted on 12/05/2010 4:47:00 AM PST by j.argese (Boycott Nevada.)
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To: JaguarXKE

“I admit to being a huge Beatles fan (I even have a signature John Lennon Rickenbacker guitar and a Vox AC-30 Amp) but Lennon was a naive fool. Ever listen to the words to “Imagine?” It’s basically the Communist Manifesto set to nice music.”

He was the ultimate leftist and we are paying the price today.


95 posted on 12/05/2010 7:15:54 AM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: pastorbillrandles
Lennon who's "Imagine" is an atheist's anthem, and who pushed the eastern religion concept of Karma.

I find the song "Instant Karma" kind of humorous. In it he says that people that laugh at him will get instant Karma. You have to assume he's speaking of those opposed to him politically would get instant Karma. Yet what happened to him epitomizes Instant Karma as they believe. If he believed in Karma and he indeed recieved Instant Karma in their eyes, then what was it that Karma was getting him for...millions dead in Cambodia perhaps...which he never accepted at least partial responsibily for being one of the main leaders the anti-war movement which led to the slaughter. Even Pete Seeger accepted partial responsibility for Cambodia on behalf of the antiwar movement.

George Harrison seemed like the good one, even though he dabbled in the eastern religion also. But his "My Sweet Lord" makes up for some of that in my eyes for the repeating of the word "Hallelujah", which in Hebrew means "pray be to the God of Israel", "jah" being "Ya", which is the short version of God's name in Hebrew. Not just any god, but the God of Israel.

I don't believe in Karma by that way. God will judge some to be snuffed out forever, but this is not Karma as the atheists and the eastern religionists believe.

96 posted on 12/05/2010 7:54:22 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Mariner; Talisker

“delivered in what were essentially remixes of musical patterns which have on a fundamental level been known to man for thousands of years.”

‘The same could be said of Beethoven or Wagner.’

Exactly. Just as every great book is delivered in what are essentially remixes of words and verbal patterns that have been known for centuries...which in no way diminishes their value.


97 posted on 12/05/2010 7:55:53 AM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
"praise be to the God of Israel", rather.
98 posted on 12/05/2010 7:57:47 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Lennnong changed a lot in his later years, he was faintly embarassed by his earlier behavior.


99 posted on 12/05/2010 8:15:15 AM PST by Borges
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
"But his "My Sweet Lord" makes up for some of that in my eyes for the repeating of the word "Hallelujah", ..."

That song induces instant projectile vomiting for me - a nauseating musical self-abasement to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the Hare Krishnas and whatever else Harrison found interesting in India when he traveled there in 1968.

100 posted on 12/05/2010 8:31:00 AM PST by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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