Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7
I don’t think the
strangeness
of RC-ism is news
to you
nor to a lot of other folks.
[Quixicated version last]
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This interesting coming from one who defends a church built on forgeries and lies.
Where do you wish to begin?
THE FORGED APOSTOLIC CONSTITUTIONS
THE FORGED "APOSTOLIC CANONS"
THE FORGED LIBER PONTIFICALIS
THE CONVERSION OF CONSTANTINE
THE FORGED LETTER OF ST. PETER THE POPE SYLVESTER FORGERIES
THE FORGED "DONATION OF CONSTANTINE"
THE "SYMMACHIAN FORGERIES"
THE "FALSE DECRETALS" FORGERIES
THE FORGED DECRETUM OF GRATIAN
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This interesting coming from one who defends a church built on forgeries and lies.
Where do you wish to begin?
THE FORGED APOSTOLIC CONSTITUTIONS
THE FORGED "APOSTOLIC CANONS"
THE FORGED LIBER PONTIFICALIS
THE CONVERSION OF CONSTANTINE
THE FORGED LETTER OF ST. PETER THE POPE SYLVESTER FORGERIES
THE FORGED "DONATION OF CONSTANTINE"
THE "SYMMACHIAN FORGERIES"
THE "FALSE DECRETALS" FORGERIES
THE FORGED DECRETUM OF GRATIAN
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Qx: Well done. Thx.
THANKS FOR THE FOLLOWING UPDATE, TC:
What’s the status of the signals from your work?
No change in weighted values for those word pairs I sent you.
No new word pairs.
CWII comin’ up nowish (or at least lots of talk about it), same with Economic Holocaust.
Looks like tectonics/earthquakes are moving downward in emotional context, if not in intensity. Probably an artifact of just parsing English (if it happens in Indonesia, for example, it won’t have the same impact as New Madrid for English-speakers).
I’m trying to make time to implement a new temporal marker algorithm, but haven’t done it yet. Basically, 2 months ago I would have said that the tectonics/earthquakes were hours away, and then that solar activity came along and messed up my approach (actually pointed out that my approach was messed up, but that’s harder on my ego).
Space Weirdness is turning more accentuated on Confusion/Fear.
Nuclear Terror is shifting closer toward the present, but no change to weighting values.
Expect more strange things in the sky/between the worlds.
I think reality is melting.
Wrong again.
I respect God’s Word directly through Christ and indirectly through Paul—both.
You don’t?
You seem to ASSUME that everything Christ had to say about Paul is recorded in Scripture.
I don’t.
And,
you seem to ASSUME
that the blip that Christ had to say about Paul is comprehensively, expansively definitive in the broadest terms.
I don’t.
I find that an unnecessary ASSUMPTION unfounded by the wording or the context of the wording.
Some RC’s seem to think that The New Testament is God’s Word.
. . . except where it isn’t—particularly Paul’s writings . . .
except they keep jumping back and forth across that fence to avoid having to be accountable and responsible to one side or the other.s
“Grace accomplishes that which God ordains. Grace is not speculative; it is transformative.”
Amen. What God sets out to do, He does, and it is complete. No will is above His. Therefore, the whole ‘limited atonement’ and ‘elect’ issue can only be understood when we being to see that it has nothing to do with our worthiness and everything to do with His worthiness. We are not even alive enough to seek Him without His seeking us first.
Praise Him.
PS Some show much contempt toward Mormons for not believing scripture is the sole word of God.
Opps your in the same position...Too bad you ASSUME about what you THINK Christ might have said to Paul.
I wonder how privy you were to their conversations...hummmm
Anyone reading these exchanges can see you're breaking the rules by making personal comments, not Quix.
Quix is discussing the topic and you're discussing Quix which is against the rules.
I could be mistaken on this but were all those at Pentecost given many gifts. All 120 of them not just the apostles..Or did the Holy Spirit just touch the apostles...I think the tongues of fire appeared on all of them..and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and give the gift of tongues. ALL OF THEM Cp 2 Acts.
Paul did nothing that those 120 didn't also do...that could not be a sign of his being an apostle. The 120 including Mary the mother of Jesus were there, if Paul received this gift it would have had to have been given to him by the laying on of hands by the Apostles would it not?
I don't remember reading anything in scripture about the Holy Spirit doing for Paul as He did with the 120 in the upper room.....
He certainly was (as Jesus said) and instrument for taking the gospel to the gentiles....the 12 apostles were forbidden to do this as Jesus was sent first to the Jews...and that was where his immediate inner circle (apostle) were to preach to...
Quix:
you seem to ASSUME
based on your wording . . .
Is “seem” not in the RC daffynitionary at all?
Sounds like you thought I said
“you ASSUME,”
Which I did NOT.
I realize that bearing false witness is a favorite RC RELIGIOUS DUTY OF OBLIGATION or some such . . . however, I don’t consider it a fruit of Holy Spirit.
BTW, I usually don’t think of you as routinely snarky.
Seems a less than ideal tone to go to bed on.
Ah well . . . RC’s do have their own standards in such matters . . . and most others.
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2. Those who trust in Christ are born again into the family of God. We, who once were at enmity with God, are now at peace through Christ who died for us.
3. NO ONE can come to God with any of their own merit and ALL must fall upon the mercy of God in humbleness of spirit. Those that rely on their good deeds to earn heaven are cast away because it can NEVER pay the penalty for sin. If Christ did not come to save us, we would all be condemned, with no hope, dead in our sins.
4. Those who are redeemed are also renewed. There is a new nature that is not under slavery to sin - we are indwelt with God's Holy Spirit. The more mature our faith grows, the less influence the sin nature has because God is working his holiness within us. Those whose outward lives show no inward change, are not really in the faith because there is the fruit of righteousness that comes from genuine faith. It can't be faked before God.
5. A child of God, can, at times, be disobedient and fall into sin. But we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous, and we are held by him never to be lost or cast away. Sin causes lost fellowship with our Father and he is always working within us to bring us back through repentance and confession - he is faithful to always forgive us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. We will be disciplined by a just and merciful Heavenly Father and, for some who refuse his discipline, he may allow suffering even to death, though his child will still be saved. We don't do anything to earn grace and we cannot do anything to keep it either.
AMEN! THAT is Christianity! And that is the Scriptural testimony of the Protestant faith.
It’s fun to get the goat of Goat Granny.
LOL.
I just don't understand what is so difficult about this.
Paul received the Holy Ghost from the laying on of hands by Ananias, the first instance of the Holy Spirit being imparted through an ordinary believer. Of course you know that Ananias was sent to Paul through a vision of Jesus Christ. He was called a disciple. (Acts 9:10-17).
Clearly you got the question wrong.
As 1000silverlings rightly noted, Paul is included in "The Acts of the Apostles" because...drum roll...he was an Apostle!
Obviously the term ignorant means lack of knowledge...He knows nothing about my thoughts and cannot ASSUME anything about me except what I have written about Paul....I am debating Paul and not getting into a religious flame war that some on this site like to do....do a cut and paste where I personally attacked anyone and was not discussing Paul and instrument of Jesus or an apostle....
I love the fact that some that like to denigrate Mary the mother of Jesus always forget she was one of the 120 and truly a spirit filled woman just as the apostles and disciples were...and also was given all the same gifts including tongues... Remember Quix ASSUMEd first about me...that's why I called him on it.....period....have a great weekend, I found my answer in scripture hope you all do the same....
In your words, you still got one of two.
Zero.
Rome likes to keep its members fearful, uncertain and unbalanced. Rome does not teach assurance because Rome does not know assurance.
"I am crucified with Christ: neverthless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." -- Galatians 2:20
Rome is neither satisfied nor assured by that truth.
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