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Church: Mormons can't lead Scouts
Charlotte Observer ^ | Oct. 19, 2010 | Tim Funk

Posted on 10/19/2010 8:21:21 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: reaganaut

In your opinion.


61 posted on 10/19/2010 9:38:55 AM PDT by donozark (It's hard to afford a psychiatrist when you work at a gas station.)
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To: Bidimus1

Merely stating what article says.


62 posted on 10/19/2010 9:40:18 AM PDT by donozark (It's hard to afford a psychiatrist when you work at a gas station.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Wow. Fascinating. Having never been in scouts, I had no idea.


63 posted on 10/19/2010 9:40:20 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Colofornian
Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. In the 60s my husband moved to Warden, WA. He had been active in scouts and wanted to continue. Unfortunately the only program at the time was sponsored by the Mormon church. They wouldn't let him in unless he became Mormon. At least these folks had other options.
64 posted on 10/19/2010 9:40:22 AM PDT by AZHSer
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To: reaganaut
U-2012>It sounds like the Christ Covenant Church
is unfamiliar with and does not practice Yah’shua’s lovingkindness.

- - - - - - - And how is that, exactly?

SEE:
Gen. 19:19; 24:12, 14, 27; 32:10; Exod. 15:13; 20:6; 34:6f; Num. 14:18f; Deut. 5:10; 7:9, 12; 1 Sam. 20:14f; 2 Sam. 2:6; 7:15; 22:51; 1 Ki. 3:6; 8:23; 1 Chr. 16:34, 41; 17:13; 2 Chr. 1:8; 5:13; 6:14, 42; 7:3, 6; 20:21; Ezr. 3:11; 7:28; 9:9; Neh. 1:5; 9:17, 32; 13:22; Job 10:12; 37:13; Ps. 5:7; 6:4; 13:5; 17:7; 18:50; 21:7; 23:6; 25:7, 10; 26:3; 31:7, 16, 21; 32:10; 33:5, 18, 22; 36:5, 7, 10; 40:10f; 42:8; 44:26; 48:9; 51:1; 52:1, 8; 57:3, 10; 59:10, 16; 61:7; 62:12; 63:3; 66:20; 69:13, 16; 77:8; 85:7, 10; 86:5, 13, 15; 88:11; 89:1f, 14, 24, 28, 33; 90:14; 92:2; 94:18; 98:3; 100:5; 101:1; 103:4, 8, 11, 17; 106:1, 45; 107:1, 8, 15, 21, 31; 108:4; 109:12, 16, 21, 26; 115:1; 117:2; 118:1ff, 29; 119:64, 76, 88, 124, 149, 159; 130:7; 136:1ff; 138:2, 8; 143:8, 12; 144:2; 145:8; 147:11; Prov. 16:6; Isa. 16:5; 54:8, 10; Jer. 9:24; 16:5; 31:3; 32:18; 33:11; Lam. 3:32; Dan. 9:4; Hos. 2:19; Joel 2:13; Jon. 4:2
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
65 posted on 10/19/2010 9:41:19 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: donozark

No, not my opinion.

Based upon facts, experience and the BIBLE (you know the Word of God for Christians).


66 posted on 10/19/2010 9:43:13 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

I have absolutely no idea what you are saying. But I agree with you./s


67 posted on 10/19/2010 9:44:50 AM PDT by donozark (It's hard to afford a psychiatrist when you work at a gas station.)
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To: reaganaut

So millions of Mormons are wrong, but you are right. Is THAT not an opinion? Just askin’...


68 posted on 10/19/2010 9:46:21 AM PDT by donozark (It's hard to afford a psychiatrist when you work at a gas station.)
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To: Pan_Yan; Colofornian; reaganaut
I got this one in 1955-56 if I remember correctly.


69 posted on 10/19/2010 9:49:45 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, at the Maynard Dixon Living History Museum)
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To: circlecity
What does that have to do with being a leader in the scouts? You don't make a lik of sense.

Saul of Tarsus:

"but avoid irreverent babble, for it will leade people into more and more ungodliness"

Is this what you were searching for ?
NAsbU 2 Timothy 2:16 But avoid worldly and empty chatter,
for it will lead to further ungodliness,
And how is that not a non sequitur ?
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
70 posted on 10/19/2010 9:50:37 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Ok, still not seeing how standing up for beliefs in a church makes one unkind. Unless you are of the opinion that Mormons are Christians like everyone else.


71 posted on 10/19/2010 9:54:58 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Pan_Yan

That’s a big BUMP Pan.


72 posted on 10/19/2010 9:55:51 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: donozark; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...

Yes, Millions of Mormons ARE WRONG. Numbers do not make one right, or a Christan, otherwise Muslims would be Christians too.

Doctrine matters, and Mormon doctrine IS NOT CHRISTIAN.

And it isn’t just me, it is all of Christianity that disagrees with Mormon Christology and doctrine.

Even Mormons don’t think that anyone who is not a Mormon is really a Christian.


74 posted on 10/19/2010 9:58:15 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
I've been a Scout leader for over fifty years.
I have a Silver Beaver from Denver Area Council.

The Mormon Church uses the scout program as
an adjunct to it's program.
That is not the program of Baden-Powell.
__________________________________________________

Uri’el, thank you for your service to the Scouting program! Wow, Silver Beaver.

As an Eagle Scout and adult Scouter, I too share your love for scouting and see how it helps boys.

While the LDS scouting program is modified slightly, it's very much in line with Powell's vision.

LDS Church President Thomas S. Monson is a lifelong scouter. President Monson is the recipient of the BSA Silver Beaver Award (1971), Silver Buffalo Award (1978), and of international Scouting’s highest award, the Bronze Wolf (1993). He is a member of the BSA National Executive Board, and has been for many years.

The scouting program is a integral part of the LDS community.

75 posted on 10/19/2010 9:59:21 AM PDT by Ripliancum ("If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest." Prov.29:9)
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To: Colofornian
"Nationally, the Mormon church has a close relationship with the Boy Scouts of America. What is the Mormon church's rules about appointing Scout leaders?

Mormon Bishop Rowlan, who heads the Stokes' Weddington church, would not say whether he would be open to naming a non-Mormon as a Scouting leader.

"I'd have to take each one on an individual basis," he said, adding that that is the policy of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."

Typically, it's the Deacon's Quorom advisor. There have been isolated incidents that I'm aware of where non-mormons were leaders, but most of those were because the advisor couldn't or wouldn't act as the Scoutmaster.

76 posted on 10/19/2010 10:00:11 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: Utah Binger

That still gives me the creeps.


77 posted on 10/19/2010 10:01:52 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: SZonian

The position of Scoutmaster is separate from the Young Men’s organization. Advisor’s are sometimes called as assistant scout masters, but the SM is it’s own.

I have served as a SM. I have also served as the Y M President. While the example you sited might happen if no one else is available, it’s not typical.


78 posted on 10/19/2010 10:04:27 AM PDT by Ripliancum ("If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest." Prov.29:9)
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To: Colofornian

Why in the world is the Church deciding who can be a leader in the Scouts. From what I remember on the way to Eagle, the Church you meet at is a sponsor of the troop as well as a host. It has no involvement in operations of the troop or pack. I think the church is really over stepping its bounds here.

Also, the Scouts dont require any specific belief in God, just that you believe God exists. You can be Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Universalist, Deist or anything you want. You just have to believe in a higher power.

Boy Scouts is not about pushing through an “Ultimate God,” so it really doesnt matter if we want it or not. The only religious references are in the law - a scout is reverent, and the oath - I will do my best... to keep myself morally straight.


79 posted on 10/19/2010 10:05:12 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: reaganaut
Amazing.

All paths are valid Oprah Christianity strikes again...

80 posted on 10/19/2010 10:05:52 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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