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Two Revolutions, Two Views of Man
Conservative Underground | July 6, 2010 | Jean F. Drew

Posted on 07/25/2010 1:37:12 PM PDT by betty boop

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To: betty boop

Betty, I certainly do not intend tyo denigrate the extraordinary efforts of many here. The scholarly erudition has been nothing short of amazing.
I have been trying to find the original posting done by wagabee in 2006 with no luck.
The comment you quoted is by me. I did not give proper credit when copied to my home page. Situation corrected. It was a reply to a particular challenge much like those that you have encountered here.


561 posted on 08/21/2010 11:31:15 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (They are the vultures of Dark Crystal screeeching their hatred and fear into the void ....)
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To: betty boop; Amos the Prophet; wagglebee
Thank you so very much for directing us to Amos the Prophet's home page and that outstanding essay-post by wagglebee!

It is a war for the continued existence of mankind centered on God.

Indeed, and to which I reply:

Maranatha, Jesus!!!

562 posted on 08/21/2010 11:33:46 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop

bump for later reading.


563 posted on 08/21/2010 11:35:17 AM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Please see my previous post regarding the article posted at my home page. I seem to be having the very deuce of a time getting proper credit for my writing. LOL Certainly no one’s fault but my own.
Blessings


564 posted on 08/21/2010 11:39:26 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (They are the vultures of Dark Crystal screeeching their hatred and fear into the void ....)
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To: Amos the Prophet; Alamo-Girl; wagglebee
The comment you quoted is by me. I did not give proper credit when copied to my home page. Situation corrected. It was a reply to a particular challenge much like those that you have encountered here.

Then let's give the proper credit to where it's due! Thank you dear Amos, brother in Christ!

If you find wagglebee's original 2006 post, I'd love to see it [or maybe waglebee knows where it is???]— for it certainly inspired a brilliant response!

565 posted on 08/21/2010 11:42:55 AM PDT by betty boop (Those who do not punish bad men are really wishing that good men be injured. — Pythagoras)
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To: Alamo-Girl; Amos the Prophet
Enough with rancor. We have a war to win.

I so agree with Amos' statement, above.

Maranatha, Jesus!!!

566 posted on 08/21/2010 11:46:00 AM PDT by betty boop (Those who do not punish bad men are really wishing that good men be injured. — Pythagoras)
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To: Amos the Prophet
Jeepers, once again I apologize to you and thank you for all of your insights!
567 posted on 08/21/2010 11:48:35 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop

I have been trying to find the original post to no avail
The Free Republic credits are:
“Globe and Mail Op Ed Propaganda for Renewal of Eugenics LifeSiteNews ^ | 7/13/06 | Hilary White Posted on 07/13/2006 8:57:14 PM EDT by wagabee”
Perhaps someone with better skills than mine can find the original post.


568 posted on 08/21/2010 11:58:40 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (They are the vultures of Dark Crystal screeeching their hatred and fear into the void ....)
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To: Amos the Prophet

That is “wagglebee”. My apologies.


569 posted on 08/21/2010 12:49:47 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (They are the vultures of Dark Crystal screeeching their hatred and fear into the void ....)
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To: betty boop; Amos the Prophet; Alamo-Girl
Here is a link to the thread from four years ago. Amos the Prophet's magnificent essay (I was confused by these posts at first, I was certain that I didn't ever write anything that brilliant) is post #14:

Globe and Mail Op Ed Propaganda for Renewal of Eugenics


570 posted on 08/21/2010 1:31:46 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; Amos the Prophet; Alamo-Girl; Diamond; YHAOS; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; spirited irish; ...
Thank you ever so much, dear wagglebee, for the link! And for finding Amos' reply in the thread. Truly, it was brilliant.

And the article at the top — "Globe and Mail Op Ed Propaganda for Renewal of Eugenics" — is just as chilling today as I'm sure it was when originally published.

It seems so appropriate to cite/reprise it here, on the present thread.

Thank you ever so much, dear wagglebee, for tracking this down for us!

571 posted on 08/21/2010 2:13:35 PM PDT by betty boop (Those who do not punish bad men are really wishing that good men be injured. — Pythagoras)
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To: wagglebee
Thank you oh so very much, dear brother in Christ, for finding the link for all of us!
572 posted on 08/21/2010 2:21:51 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop; wagglebee; Alamo-Girl; Diamond; YHAOS; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; spirited irish

Perhaps the most debilitating attitude expressed by conservatives is reasonableness. It manifests itself as a willingness to compromise. When confronted by leftist fanatics a conservative will typically buckle rather than face a blizzard of accusation.
An undying commitment to reasonbleness means being able to see both (or all) sides of an argument. The result of all this gentlemanly conduct usually results in surrendering some small ground in order to maintain good fellowship. Where, precisely, does this get us? From the perspective of our adversary it simply means that we can be bullied into surrender, or, at least, hushed up.
What happens when the spirit of the French Revolution meets the Spirit of the American Revolution on the battlefield. We shall see, for, this is truly the business we are about.


573 posted on 08/21/2010 4:05:32 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (They are the vultures of Dark Crystal screeeching their hatred and fear into the void ....)
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To: Amos the Prophet
What a perfect description of most Republican elected officials prior to the Tea Party phenomenon. Hopefully they have had a rude awakening.

Thank you for sharing your insights, dear Amos!

574 posted on 08/21/2010 7:44:29 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

The awakening of the RINO faction is not yet. They still believe they can quiet Tea Party Reps and Senators when they arrive in Jan. That will be the time for true revolution.
Every effort will be made to bring our firebrands into the fold of the ruling class. It will take men and women of raw courage to fight the impulse to join the most exclusive club in the world. We have not seen this war before in our history.
You have made for us a vital distinction between the French and the Colonial revolutions. French revolution descended into a Ruling Class who shamed the character of the king they deposed. So too, our Revolution has been corrupted by the same spawn of the guillotine who oppose in every detail the cause for which our Founders fought.
We must return to that battlefield and end the tyranny of the Godless and immoral tyrants who foul the heart of our tradition.
We will prevail if we sustain the same spirit that guided George Washington, the progenitor of our freedom.


575 posted on 08/21/2010 8:11:42 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (They are the vultures of Dark Crystal screeeching their hatred and fear into the void ....)
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To: Amos the Prophet
SO very true, dear Amos, we cannot afford complacency. The risks are too high.
576 posted on 08/21/2010 8:17:35 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Amos the Prophet; Alamo-Girl; wagglebee; Diamond; YHAOS; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; spirited irish
Perhaps the most debilitating attitude expressed by conservatives is reasonableness. It manifests itself as a willingness to compromise. When confronted by leftist fanatics a conservative will typically buckle rather than face a blizzard of accusation.

Please excuse me, dear Amos, my brother in Christ, but it seems to me we're not talking about the "reason" of certain "conservatives" here. We're talking in much more general terms, about the spinelessness of people who choose not to live in, nor carry on, the tradition in which they were raised. As if it had no value, or relevance to the personal/social conditions of our age....

But what good is a "conservative" who will not "conserve?" That he's "forgotten" [or didn't even bother to learn in the first place] whatever it was he was supposed to "conserve" is no excuse.

Instead, he should remember....

There's nothing "reasonable" about being "unreasonable"....

Oh, it's late, probably well past my bedtime!

So I'll just say good-night, and God bless, to any person reading these lines.

May God's' blessings be upon you!

And on you, dear Amos! Good night! Sleep tight!

577 posted on 08/21/2010 11:09:23 PM PDT by betty boop (Those who do not punish bad men are really wishing that good men be injured. — Pythagoras)
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“Please excuse me, dear Amos, my brother in Christ, but it seems to me we’re not talking about the “reason” of certain “conservatives” here. We’re talking in much more general terms, about the spinelessness of people who choose not to live in, nor carry on, the tradition in which they were raised. As if it had no value, or relevance to the personal/social conditions of our “

Spirited: In extension of betty’s astute observations I add that spinelessness is the consequence of three interlocking spiritual conditions:

1. Moral relativism, or lack of discernment between right and wrong

2. An overiding desire to be liked, popular, fashionable, etc-—at all costs

3. Willful ignorance (ie., distaste for immutable truths and moral absolutes)


578 posted on 08/22/2010 5:04:24 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish

I am not sure where you are finding disagreement vis a vis talking about the “reason” (reasonableness?) of certain conservatives. I certainly agree with you about the spinelessness of much of our party’s leadership. Do you believe they are justifying their spinelessness by claiming to be reasonable? Perhaps you could clarify your distinction. I do not want to miss a cogent concern.


579 posted on 08/22/2010 6:46:32 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (They are the vultures of Dark Crystal screeeching their hatred and fear into the void ....)
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To: spirited irish; betty boop

Look like I got messages mixed up. My comment in the previous post should have been directed at BB. Sorry Irish. I think reasonableness as I discussed it and spinelessness are virtually interchangeable.


580 posted on 08/22/2010 6:50:56 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (They are the vultures of Dark Crystal screeeching their hatred and fear into the void ....)
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