Testimony of a Former Irish Priest

BereanBeacon.Org ^ | Richard Peter Bennett

[stfassisi]

You should have left this one out...This is the one that sinks your religion

It was not my quote.It was PNSN's quote that I did not agree with and responded to

[smvoice]

"These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may KNOW that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." (1 John 5:13).

We can KNOW we have eternal life. Not have to guess whether it's so.

[D-fendr]

Believers are sealed

Believers in what precisely? And how much belief, under what tests and for how long?

We don't know our future and we judge ourselves in these matters, Jesus does.

[MarkBsnr]

I apologise

Accepted and forgotten.

you only seem to be ascribing false motives for Martin Luther's actions while at the same time being unaware of his dangerous situation

Dangerous situation? He was a fat, stationary and easily attainable target. No, we must face it; the fantasy that the 'satanic' Catholic Church with the 'antiChrist Pope' as the steward of the Christ simply did not kill, did not want to kill Martin Luther. I suspect that the Church realized that God's reward for Martin Luther's broken vows and fragmenting of Christianity would far exceed and be much longer in duration than any temporal actions that the Church could enact.

[D-fendr]

written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may KNOW

And you my think ye believe (enough now and forever) and ye may think ye know.

Jesus is still the judge.

[D-fendr]

Sorry, obviously, should have typed:

We don't know our future and we don't judge ourselves in these matters, Jesus does.

[smvoice]

Seriously? "Believers in what precisely"?

Believers are SAVED people. Who believe the gospel of your salvation. That Christ died for our sins, was buried, and rose again the third day. Believers, those who are saved because they believed in the Gospel of Your Salvation, are sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption. Not UNTIL, but UNTO. (Eph. 4:30).

[smvoice]

Hey, you can choose to believe what Scripture says or not. It’s up to you. But it clearly states “That ye may KNOW”.

[Quix]

So, who is it in your acquaintance do you believe that a fitting description of?

[Quix]

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

WELL PUT.

[D-fendr]

Believers are SAVED people

Those who have been saved from death - for certain - are not living, you included.

Who believe the gospel of your salvation.

With double predestination or without?

Believers, those who are saved because they believed in the Gospel of Your Salvation

How long did they believe and how much did they believe? How long will you believe what you believe is necessary for salvation, and how much will you believe it? How much will your belief be tested? How do you know how much and what you what you will really believe then?

Who is the judge of your salvation?

[MarkBsnr]

Ain't it grand that the Vatican thinks Proddys are as dumb as rocks!

The really unfortunate thing is the extremely long line of Protestants out to prove this true. There are many Protestants who obviously are more holy than such as I, but there is a rag tag cluster of folks that simply reinforce that stereotype.

[Quix]

The Bible is NOT EVER shown as something given to each individual of the community.

WHAT UNMITIGATED,
UNAWARE,
UNWARRANTED,
UNBIBLICAL,
IRRATIONAL,
UNHISTORICAL,
WILD-HAIRED,
BALDERDASH!

Oh, right . . .

The Vatican
stretchy
pseudo-'Bible'
must not include
all the verses
about hiding
Scripture in one's heart,
memorizing Scripture,
carrying it on one's forehead,
. . .

How on earth
do these folks
find North,
or their coffee in the morning;
or the white throne in the night;
or their car keys;
or their route to work;
or their work station;
. . .
sigh.

[MarkBsnr]

I can't see how...Once you are filled with the Spirit of God, there's no provision for kicking the Spirit back out...Or, the Holy Spirit leaving...

One may turn from God, run from God...Get angry with God...One may deny God with his lips and even block God out of his thoughts much of the time...

But THAT Spirit is always there trying to get you back into the Grace of God...

Trying? What do you mean trying? Are you saying that God is not Almighty? That God can fail when dealing with His creations?

[MarkBsnr]

I would *think* dissing one’s mother would be somewhat of a violation of “honor thy father and thy mother.”

When you read the Scriptures with the guidance of the breakfast in your belly and the mood of your spouse, you are liable to come up with all kinds of novel theologies.

[D-fendr]

Is everyone who "knows" or think they know, correct? What if they believe differently about what than you on what they have to believe to know, and they "know" too? Still correct, both of you?

Who is the final judge of this?

[stfassisi]

UNHISTORICAL,

Prove it

Show writings by Early Christians that the Bible was handed out to large amounts of individuals of the communities outside the Church from the time of Bible Canon to 1400 ad .

Perhaps you need to be reminded that most people were illiterate and it took years for Catholic monks to produce a single copy of the Bible

When your done with that... Show your long ping list of pals a list historical writings from those who could read the scriptures their interpretations against what the Catholic Church historically taught.

I'll name a few to help you... Arians,Valentinians, Manicheans etc..

Welcome to the solo scripture club listed above!

[xone]

As I said, he read Matt 2 and declined his summons. I've never seen any suggestion of this before.

I left out the 'perhaps' from an earlier posting I had made. Mark, you have to face the fact that others who fell into the hands of the Catholics during those times didn't always fare well. I'm glad Martin didn't obey the summons. I'm not sure the Catholics had the reach where he lived without deniability. I am sure the Catholics would have killed him if they could. Perhaps without sanction if only for the reason he was costing some of them good commissions.

[marbren]

xone, I got one that I believe you and Martin Luther and MarkBsnr agree on, REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY.

[xone]

There is no single Protestant position of what is required for salvation.......To others such as the LDS,.

Please stick with Christians.