Posted on 07/12/2010 10:28:06 PM PDT by Quix
How could someone know the Catholic faith is the only true faith and then reject it? That would be impossible for any sane human being. Worse than suicide, to condemn oneself to a loss of salvation. Think again on this one.
If you really want to get your brain tied up in knots, remember that the pope said non-Catholics could be saved, and the pope is not infallible.
Save us the finger pointing and post all the data from your catechism as to requirements for salvation...
It isn't just "equal to." It just plain IS. The Eucharist IS the Sacrifice of Calvary in an unbloody manner.
I figure it may be frowned upon, but if it’s a sin, it’s a venial one, and not going to get me sent straight to hell. I ALWAYS dedicate my practice to the glory of God. There is some Christian yoga, but somehow I doubt if it’s very good. Muslims aren’t supposed to do it either because in it you adopt the muslim prayer position (butt in the air) without praying. I wouldn’t call it exactly “clearing my mind of everything”, but more like shutting off the infernal, incessant ego-driven inner dialogue for a little while and letting the machinery of my mind take a break. Again, my understanding is that hatha yoga is intended to train the body and train the mind to be the master of the body, which prepares the spirit for prayer and worship, of whatEVER variety one chooses. I’ve thought about this quite a lot, because I am a Catholic Christian, yet I have become a serious practitioner of hatha yoga over the past four and a half years.
“Wait. You forgot “insulting fellow Christians on the Internet.”
Oh, you mean like posting an article just for the ridicule?
Hmmmmm....
But how is it made visible? Where shall we find Calvary perpetuated? We shall find Calvary renewed, re-enacted, re-presented, as we have seen, in the Mass. Calvary is one with the Mass, and the Mass is one with Calvary, for in both there is the same Priest and Victim. The Seven Last Words are like the seven parts of the Mass. And just as there are seven notes in music admitting an infinite variety of harmonies and combinations, so too on the Cross there are seven divine notes, which the dying Christ rang down the centuries, all of which combine to form the beautiful harmony of the world's redemption.
Each word is a part of the Mass. The First Word, "Forgive," is the Confiteor; the Second Word, "This Day in Paradise," is the Offertory; the Third Word, "Behold Thy Mother," is the Sanctus; the Fourth Word, "Why hast Thou abandoned Me," is the Consecration; the Fifth Word, "I thirst," is the Communion; the Sixth Word, "It is finished," is the Ite, Missa Est; the Seventh Word, "Father, into Thy Hands," is the Last Gospel.
Picture then the High Priest Christ leaving the sacristy of heaven for the altar of Calvary. He has already put on the vestment of our human nature, the maniple of our suffering, the stole of priesthood, the chasuble of the Cross. Calvary is his cathedral; the rock of Calvary is the altar stone; the sun turning to red is the sanctuary lamp; Mary and John are the living side altars; the Host is His Body; the wine is His Blood. He is upright as Priest, yet He is prostrate as Victim. His Mass is about to begin.
And one more thing, the above doesn't make a bit of sense. Of course God is in my mind whether I'm yammering up there or not. The trick is shutting off the voice of "I" so you can HEAR Him. Those that smack and bash at Yoga remind me of the prots that smack and bash at Catholicism. They infer nefarious thoughts and actions in an ignorant way, because they do not understand, and do not WISH to understand.
I think there is a place for you in the NAACP. Someone who objects and wants to debate is not a racist . . . er, is not someone who just wants to ridicule.
Our son was involved with yoga, and we asked my brother-in-law’s spiritual advisor (very orthodox priest!) about it and he said the exercises themselves are fine, but to not follow the religion behind them ...
There is a huge worldwide organization of Christian yoga. I don't have the time right now, but please use your favorite search engine to verify what I've said.
There is a huge worldwide organization of Christian yoga. I don't have the time right now, but please use your favorite search engine to verify what I've said.
My explanation will probably be found wanting and there are more detailed sources available.
It hinges on the understanding of what is conveyed by the phrase “do this in memory of me.” meaning of the Greek word anamnesis. Does it convey a simple remembering? Or is it, as when the Jews celebrate Passover, have the meaning of bringing into the present a past historical event? Catholics believe the use of the Greek word anamnesis means it signifies the latter.
Another consideration is the distinction between “chronos” time and “kairos” time. A good explantion of this and the connection with anamnesis can be found at the Greek Orthodox blog.
There Is No Salvation Outside Of The Catholic Church
lol. Today. Tomorrow they will argue the opposite.
The only consistency in Rome is its inconsistency.
I understand the concept of the Eucharist being the sacrifice of Calgary (not in an unbloody manner though, the wine IS the blood).
What I am discussing is the belief expressed that the Mass (not the Eucharist) is the parishioners making a sacrifice like that of Christ, AT Calgary where the Mass mystically transports the parishioners.
As I read assertion #4, by participating in the Mass, the parishioner is mystically transported to Calgary, where they give a sacrifice equivalent to Christ’s sacrifice on the Cross as enacted in the Eucharist.
Maybe I am not phrasing that correctly, or I have misunderstood the meaning, but that is what i got from the words to #4, and as I said, I had not previously heard a Catholic discuss giving a Calgary-type sacrifice through the attendance at Mass.
LOL - I gotta love the logic here. Have you ever done yoga? No, I'm not talking about all of the garbage that often goes with the body positions, I'm only referring to those positions - just as you did. It is an excellent form of exercise and stretching.
There is one position that is very similar to sitting in a chair. I'm curious - will you now stand while eating and stop using your car in order to stay out of that EEEEEVIL prayer position? Get right on it and let us know how it goes.
Exactly.
At
CALGARY?
Would that be on the former World’s Fair site?
What particular venue?
Does the Vatican know about this?
Yes, and I suspect that this is where most of the concern lies. If good young christian boys and girls go and start taking “spiritual” exercise classes from a bunch of hindus and buddhists who call themselves guru, soon they’ll be dressed in saffron robes chanting hare krishna in front of the airport. Probably a valid concern. I’m not going to stop.
By "unbloody," I mean that His Precious Blood wasn't shed as happened during His Passion and Crucifixion.
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