Where Is That Taught in the Bible?

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[daniel1212]

Yes, with the questions from cronos. Why that question?

[Judith Anne]

“Not interested.”

Of course not. It shows that your statement is false.

[caww]

That's right! I wasn't thinking in that vein but you're absolutely right. He does have his thugs out and about in all avenues of life.

I have wondered why the two most divisive topics are politics and religion....I enjoy talking both but many stay clear of in day to day life. But then it was equally so in Biblical times...wonder where exactly that started? Probably in Genesis...seems the first of just about everything began there.

[Judith Anne]

It’s impressive work. Thanks, that’s what I wanted to know, if you wrote it, or if you cut and pasted it from some other source.

[daniel1212]

Oh, it could be improved. I think we met back here BTW: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2421970/posts?page=10420#10420

[small voice in the wilderness]

"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in the respect of an holyday, or of the new moon,or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ."(Colossians 2:16,17).

Have a fear of meat on Friday? Read the above, or eat grilled cheese sandwiches, better safe than sorry, in your world, I guess.

[Grunthor]

There is no dispute on my part. The Bible tells us all that we need to know in order to be saved. To say otherwise is to insist that Christs’ sacrifice was not enough.

[don-o]

Please check your Freepmail

[caww]

Not interested.

[Grunthor]

your post was the longest and most informative I have read.

[Frumanchu]

So are you saying that you do not believe the Apostle John and what he wrote -- that all things could not be written down?

But that's the problem...you're appealing to our ability to rightly discern what the Apostle John meant in order to prove the case that we cannot reliably discern what Scripture means. You're ultimately forced to fall back on the assumption of the very conclusion you're trying to prove: that your religious institution has the sole authority to rightly interpret the Scriptures.

[small voice in the wilderness]

Thank you for the Freepmail. I'll be clear as to what I believe.

We are saved, by grace, through faith. Period. No works for salvation. It is the FINISHED WORK of CHRIST that saves. To add or take away from His finished work is to deny the completeness that is in Christ.

We are instructed to "Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth" (2 Timothy 2:15). If we desire God's approval we rightly divide His Word, and know which dispensation we are operating under. We know WHEN this present Dispensation began, Who it was given to, Who gave it to him, what it's purpose is, and when it's going to end.

The Word of God is the final authority. Period.

[daniel1212]

To God be any glory for any help it provides.

[don-o]

Do you believe that Jesus and the other Apostles brought a “works based” gospel for the Jews and that Paul alone brings the gospel to the gentiles?

[small voice in the wilderness]

"Whom shall He teach knowledge, and whom shall He make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept; precept uon precept, line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little". (Isa. 28:9,10).

There is a divine principle in God's method of instructing man. Not all information at once, but "precept upon precept, line upon line, here a little and there a little," God has revealed Himself to man.

Noah knew more about God than Adam had known. Abraham knew more than Noah, Moses knew more than Abraham,David more than Moses, Peter and the 11 more than David, and Paul knew more than the twelve, and all that had gone before. For to Paul was revealed BY CHRIST, the very "secret of the gospel", the capstone of DIVINE REVELATION. (see Eph. 3:1-4, 3:8,9 and 6:18-20).

If this were understood plainly, there would be no seeming "contradiction" between the Gospel of the Kingdom and the Gospel of the Grace of God. There is no contradiction between the Sermon on the Mount, the Great Commission, and Paul's Epistles. There are only contradictions if we try to apply them to the same dispensation. This is where the confusion, doctrines of men, tradition, false teachings and adding to or taking from God's Word comes from.

[mountn man]

So let me get this straight.

Your saying that because EVERYTHING that Jesus said or did is not written down, therefore the Catholic church can make up traditions at will and accredit them to Christ?

All John 21:25 says is that not everything Jesus said or did isn't written. Thats ALL it says, no more no less.

[don-o]

Thank you for laying it out as clearly as you did.

[caww]

Good post....I agree...seeing this in many of the counterfeit Christianity cults.

[mountn man]

You quoted a question I posed to freeper popman.

Yes I did.

This is a public forum, and you asked your question in public.

So whats your answer? Does the Catholic church have power over mens salvation?

[caww]

That’s correct...that’s all it says...unfortunately that’s used to often to justify additional books, teachings and literature....and at worst to say things Christ never said.