Posted on 06/29/2010 3:14:12 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
Neither do I. What's funny is how the Romanists are now claiming to be a non-denominational church.
Very well said...something we all should keep in mind.
God bless
“Jurisdictional rights and prerogatives of the pope
In virtue of his office as supreme teacher and ruler of the faithful, the chief control of every department of the Church's life belongs to the pope. In this section the rights and duties which thus fall to his lot will be briefly enumerated. It will appear that, in regard to a considerable number of points, not merely the supreme control, but the whole exercise of power is reserved to the Holy See, and is only granted to others by express delegation. This system of reservation is possible, since the pope is the universal source of all ecclesiastical jurisdiction. Hence it rests with him to determine in what measure he will confer jurisdiction on bishops and other prelates.
(1) As the supreme teacher of the Church, whose it is to prescribe what is to be believed by all the faithful, and to take measures for the preservation and the propagation of the faith, the following are the rights which pertain to the pope:
•it is his to set forth creeds, and to determine when and by whom an explicit profession of faith shall be made (cf. Council of Trent, Sess. 24, cc. 1 and 12);
•it is his to prescribe and to command books for the religious instruction of the faithful; thus, for example, Clement XIII has recommended the Roman Catechism to all the bishops.
•The pope alone can establish a university, possessing the status and privileges of a canonically erected Catholic university;
•to him also belongs the direction of Catholic missions throughout the world; this charge is fulfilled through the Congregation of the Propaganda.
•It is his to prohibit the reading of such books as are injurious to faith or morals, and to determine the conditions on which certain classes of books may be issued by Catholics;
•his is the condemnation of given propositions as being either heretical or deserving of some minor degree of censure, and lastly
•he has the right to interpret authentically the natural law. Thus, it is his to say what is lawful or unlawful in regard to social and family life, in regard to the practice of usury, etc.”
“Hence it rests with him to determine in what measure he will confer jurisdiction on bishops and other prelates.”
“..entities that operate with relative autonomy...” the key word being ‘relative’, “relative” to what?
LOLOL.
according to the U.S. State Department: "The Holy See is the universal government of the Catholic Church and operates from the Vatican City State, a sovereign, independent territory of 0.44 square kilometers (0.17 square miles). The Pope is the ruler of both the Vatican City State and the Holy See. The Holy See, as the supreme body of government of the Catholic Church, is a sovereign juridical entity under international law."
Sounds pretty conclusive to me.
The Holy See is the universal government of the RCC and works out of the Vatican. That government's jurisdiction thus covers all it governs -- every Roman Catholic on the planet.
LOL, that real is something. :)
Now if we can get them over to our side of the Cross we will really have something.
What it comes down to is they are willing to part with a perception, at least in part, of the Romanist Church as a single moral authority to avoid the financial fallout of legal claims. If they lose that perception amongst their own parishioners, which is already happening, they experience a financial fallout from declining revenues.
Their evil has put them in the proverbial rock and a hard place.
If it is true that each parish is independent of the Vatican and each priest is an independent contractor, then all Roman Catholic churches TODAY should stop sending their church offerings to the archdiocese and thus to Rome, and instead keep their money and put it to solving local problems and needs right in their own communities.
Imagine how quickly Rome would object.
God has them in derision. And they are squirming. if they attempt to catch one plate in the air, then another plate falls. It would be funny, if not for the complete heresy and continual attempts to deny the obvious. There is no repentance, just excuses.
INDEED TO THE MAX.
NOW NOW!
Thrashing the Vatican about the head and shoulders . . .
with facts . . .
is NOT very . . . uhhhhh . . . Marian.
Somewhat apt, probably.
I don’t think there’s been NO repentance.
There has been mostly rationalization, circling the wagons, excuses.
All of us have been guilty of such with regard to our own sins.
you are so right, Quix. I am very guilty of all/none, always/never thinking when I should realize that there are exceptions to every rule! please, I would appreciate it if you would * me when you see this occuring in my posts. Just a friendly reminder to me to keep it all in perspective! Thanks, SVITW
As I notice, I likely will—kind of a reflex at this stage . . . . I used to be guilty of such . . . Got lots of tail feathers very singed to ashes with that purifying Heavenly fire over such stuff.
THX for your Godly attitude.
:)
lol. I bet they’d find a way. They always do.
Yep. This is not language conducive to an IC relationship at all, quite the contrary. Plus, all the other examples you mention steer toward the employee side of the relationship test put forth by SCOTUS. This really might not be the walk in the park the Vatican lawyers seem to expect.
“..entities that operate with relative autonomy...” the key word being ‘relative’, “relative” to what?
Perhaps relative to inmates at a supermax, which is where these monsters belong.
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