Posted on 06/15/2010 3:57:42 PM PDT by Ken4TA
Interesting article. Bookmarked for later consideration. Thanks!
‘fed a few people, and taught us to share with the person who comes to us in need, He refused to encourage any seeking after the goods of the world. He offered no political solutions to world problems and denounced ambition for worldly equality and plenty. ————————
I couldn’t go any further..
You cannot be serious ...
Thanks for another teachable moment ...
All first year Greek students ... your assignment is to write a 10 sentence paper describing why this is nonsense. Papers due tomorrow morning.
In order to have a legitimate Kingdom there must be the right to rule, which Jesus has; there must be a domain... ie, subjects, which Jesus has; and there must be an exercise of that rule, which Jesus is not doing. He currently sits at the Right Hand of God the Father, UNTIL His enemies are made a footstool for his feet. THEN he will come to earth and bring God's will to exercise His rule as the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
If Jesus Christ reigned right now, His followers would actually follow Him and His enemies would not only fear Him, but would bow down and acknowledge Him as Lord, to the glory of God, The Father
But what if Christ actually is going to return physically to this earth - as scripture indicates he will - and reign on earth for a thousand years? Rev. 20. What if the earthly millennial reign is the inheritance of the saints? and since the NT emphasizes faith so much, how vital it is to believe “right,” have you thought that you may be forfeiting your inheritance by your disbelief?
Unfortunately it is quite easy to abuse Bible search software. This site is recommended for research purposes only, contains lots of false doctrine.
But I am :-)
I couldn’t go any further..
Then you've missed a lot of the message.
You're very welcome.
I don't know if I'd want to be in your class...disregarding what Jesus and the writers of the NT say doesn't fit well with me.
Read this! It explains why there are thousands of thousands who have investigated this issue and have accepted it. You may learn something - but you surely don't have to accept it. I'm not that dogmatic :-)
I certainly wouldn't treat Jesus' testimony as "drivel".
In order to have a legitimate Kingdom there must be the right to rule, which Jesus has; there must be a domain... ie, subjects, which Jesus has; and there must be an exercise of that rule, which Jesus is not doing.
Hmmm...Guess what - Jesus is ruling right now, and even better, Christians are ruling with him! That's what the Bible has to say - I leave it up to your great knowledge of the Scriptures, for surely you must have found some verses that tell you Jesus in not in charge of his subjects?
If Jesus Christ reigned right now, His followers would actually follow Him and His enemies would not only fear Him, but would bow down and acknowledge Him as Lord, to the glory of God, The Father.
Jesus is now reigning and His followers really follow Him! They take up the cross and follow Jesus because He is the "head", i.e., the ruler of His "called out assembly" of saints. As for His enemies, when He comes again, they will be destroyed along with this world, just as II Pet. 3:1-18 tells us. Paul said similar things in II Thess. 1:3-10 and 2:1-12
Christ is ACTUALLY going to return physically to this earth, just as Scriptures tell us. But reigning for a short "thousand years"? Naw. His return is to resurrect the righteous and unrighteous for reward or punishment. Our inheritance is not just for "a thousand years", but forever in a new earth in new heavens. I have no fear of forfeiting my inheritance, for I believe Jesus with my whole being: looking forward to having an immortal, powerful, spiritual body just as Christ Jesus received at His resurrection - for the apostle John says that when we see Him we will be like Him. Don't you have that same hope?
I spent a few minutes surveying the site there. Lots of articles. This person denies the judgement of unbelievers, denies the immortality of the soul, denies the millenium ... generally has an approach to Scripture that emphasizes simple word studies and draws conclusions based upon that.
A few minutes doesn't allow you the time to absorb what all the articles have to say. After all there are over 350 articles. Not a single article denies the judgement of unbelievers.
But yes, some articles talking about the "soul" do deny its immortality - but that is with the correct definition of what a "soul" really is: it is not an entity found within a human body (nor animal body, for they too are called "living souls/creatures"). Man doesn't HAVE a "soul", man IS a soul - it's that simple!
And yes, I guess you could call what these articles say (or at least most of them - there are some that do look for a millennial period), indicate that they are amillennial for the most part.
Actually, all the articles are based upon "conditionalist" theology, which are never considered for what they really say. At one time we were of the traditionalist viewpoint - we accepted it because is was said to rest upon what the Bible had to say. But a closer investigation of the scriptures indicated that we were mistaken in that assumption. A careful, harmonious and exegetical study doesn't show the viewpoints of millennialists to be correct. We have changed once and do not mind changing again, but we were evidently wrong once through lack of careful study adn do not wish to repeat the same mistake. Mere assertions and denunciations will not refute the evidence presented in the articles on this web-site.
We do address the words recorded in the Bible, for as Jesus said, “As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it. There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day.” (John 12:47–48).
We are still waiting for anyone to actually address what is said in any of the articles found on our web-site. Instead all we get is stuff like what this is responding to. O'well, it takes all kinds...
Utter nonsense. I have taught 1st graders in Sunday School who would laugh at this silly statement and then refute it with a simple question, "if we are ruling with Him, why don't the bad people do what we say?" We WILL rule with Him, to be sure. But what we are doing right now isn't "ruling."
Clean up your theology... it is leaving a mess all over the place.
Thanks. Yeah, folks who deny the millennium often have to deny a lot of other central teachings of scripture in order to give their theology symmetry. The result is often a melange of feel-goodism, laced with universalism and sung to doctrine-free songs of "worship" like "Kumbaya."
I don’t think this site is in the universalism camp ... they are in the “total destruction” camp. They definitely develop a systematic theology on this site, and seem to ignore Biblical theology ... which typically wraps you around the axle in a hurry.
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