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UFO Cults Are Flourishing in New Age Circles
Christian Research Institute ..... "because truth matters" ^ | Unknown | Hank Hanegraaff

Posted on 05/25/2010 10:19:08 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman

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To: Quix
Thanks for the ping..

Watching some of Hall's video and his description of the Nevada Air Base and it's location, on one of our Vegas vacations, we went through Pahrump and then to Death Valley and Rhyolite Ghost Town, and back to LV via Rt.95, drove through Beatty and the USAF air base Charles Hall talks about, it was mostly nothing to look at, almost zero activity.

If it had the activity Hall talks about, it was “very well hidden”!

281 posted on 05/31/2010 3:39:38 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (To anger a Conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a Liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: roamer_1

What a terrific post with great ideas. And what a great ending to the story!

Thank you.


282 posted on 05/31/2010 6:00:44 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Blessed Is The Nation Whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: Quix

Yep - Love is spelled T-I-M-E.


283 posted on 05/31/2010 6:04:07 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: All
Documents Conclusion stated.........

“NONE of the three witnesses COULD CONFIRM having directly seen either an extraterrestrial or a UFO while serving with Charles Hall at Nellis AFB.”......

(so again narrows it to one mans opinion of what he thought or believed he saw.)

( Thus Adding the traditional excuses common).......” This may be result of the ....”psychological impact”... of unbruised servicemen encountering UFOs/ETs in an isolated environment. Certainly the strong reaction from Witness C in terms of abandoning his duties regardless of punishment suggests such a ......”psychological” impact.... was evident.

(...and there's the typical psychiatric “Memory Work” always unreliable at best, to keep the mystery alive when the truth is not accepted as such).......... “If this is what occurred, then further interviews and perhaps.... ‘hypnotic regression’ ( or suggestion as some believe)... may elicit further recollections that may confirm the existence of ETs/UFOs that Charles claimed to witness when based at Nellis Air Force Base.

( of course also usual)......” Unfortunately, the witnesses have indicated a desire to maintain anonymity, and do not appear overly eager to participant in further interviews thereby precluding for the moment this kind of follow up.

So many UFO/ALIEN sightings come up wanting for evidence...”talk” can be bought and or coerced as we see in the Project Camelot videos so often. In the end the evidence is just not there but primarily speculation at best.

Further you would think with the supposed aliens high tech capabilities that over all these years they would of advanced themselves in their appearance features, (since they claim to be the masters of taking humans to the next evolutionary level) then why haven't they themselves advanced?

.... as well as the crafts they supposedly fly.....these have not changed over the years much at all...same ol’ disk shapes...hoovering lights of one kind or another....or speeding ships (asteroids) at a distance....they just don't advance themselves.

And remarkably all the aliens reported have earthly or animal features common to our race......noses arms, legs. eyes. skin etc. If so advanced you'd think their species would have evolved further from the human or animal looking frailties in appearances. But they don't....and yet they are going to accelerate us to the next level??????? Better that they have their own appearances advanced.... unrelated at all to human features and quite further up the evolutionary lines they claim. But they do not and their history remains the same...as always... which lends one to conclude the series continues, just like star wars, to the next generations episode, with a few tweaks here and there to make it more palatable to the people.

284 posted on 05/31/2010 6:24:31 AM PDT by caww
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To: LibertyRocks

TRUE, TRUE, THX THX.


285 posted on 05/31/2010 7:29:56 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: LibertyRocks

THX THX.


286 posted on 05/31/2010 7:31:38 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: roamer_1; Outlaw Woman

EXCELLENT. EXCELLENT INDEED.

BENIGN DISTRACTION IS A HUGE ASSET.

My error in not mentioning it. Thanks.


287 posted on 05/31/2010 7:33:29 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

His was in the 1960’s . . . things have likely changed.

Thanks.

Evidently, BTW, he was there at the same time as my relative.


288 posted on 05/31/2010 7:34:32 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: esquirette

INDEED.


289 posted on 05/31/2010 7:34:56 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: caww

WHEN FACED WITH

the real deal . . . those . . .

points . . .

will fade to chaff or oblivion.

as you will observe in due course.


290 posted on 05/31/2010 7:37:06 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix

Perhaps so Quix...but if and until they are proven REAL...they simple are not... Alien UFOS..... This of course does not rule out a possible deception aligned against God, but then they would still not be ALien UFOS from other planets.... Rather from a ‘sphere of influence’ operating by the Prince and power of the Air as I mentioned prior. I know we differ somewhat on this, but am ok with that.


291 posted on 05/31/2010 8:04:57 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Of course.


292 posted on 05/31/2010 9:12:55 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: caww

You might dismiss this testimony of a sober New England politican . . .

http://news.exopoliticsinstitute.org/index.php/archives/196

as you seem to every other testimony.

Perhaps not. I’d love to be wrong.

As a psychologist . . . and as a human observing myself . . .

there was a time in my life when I seemed almost hell-bent-determined

TO LEARN EVERYTHING THE HARD WAY

AND TO ACCEPT ABSOLUTELY NO TESTIMONY ABOUT ANYTHING AS VERY VALID, AT ALL.

Sometimes I think I’ve grown out of those “terrible twos.”

At least now, I’m much more eager and quicker to accept testimony that the stove is hot instead of insisting on the burned fingers detection method.

Testimony is not always perfect; very rarely so.

Quality testimony is also not equal to used toilet paper.


293 posted on 05/31/2010 9:24:09 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: caww

BTW, I’ve watched a presentation by researchers into Ike’s 2 visits with the ET’s.

I believe their findings would stand up well in a court of law.


294 posted on 05/31/2010 9:25:52 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix

From the link....

Wednesday, May 12th, 2010

“Henry W. McElroy, a former New Hampshire state legislator, claims he saw a briefing for President Eisenhower that revealed the presence of extraterrestrials in the United States.”..............

Once again he said they said, but the documents nor memos to that briefing are not presented... Quix...and there is a great deal of he said they said , I heard they heard floating around on the net.

Actually putting a legislatures name before such a statement gives me more pause than the man on the street as to his reliablility and trustworthness.

Besides I understand the Gov. is in on this deception as I remember you mentioning. Be it cover up, or promoting the AlienUFO’s, they are as much interwoven as the New agers making it difficult to follow any trail...which is a tactic to continue the deception.

This is also why people in the UFOAlien Cults never quite reach the heights promised...nor the next “gathering” to take them or us away.....because there is always a new date set for the gathering after the last one failed to be realized, and there are many. Also,...a new height that must be reached....or another seminar to attend...all to keep this thing alive and well...they even assess the drop out rate as they know people will eventually see the truth.

Ever notice how the sites are very colorful and appealing to the youth? Galactic photos and such...even space games and riddles..this is marketing tool to keep the rank and file coming in to replace those who leave...the youth is far more vulnerable and easily mislead today.....


295 posted on 05/31/2010 9:45:22 AM PDT by caww
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To: Quix

Well then perhaps it will go the courts....and we shall see.

However most get tossed as you know. It’s like a scientist trying to prove his theory via a court system rather than presenting ‘the evidence’ of his research, and allowing his peers to validate his ‘evidence’, and use a similar model to arrive at certain conclusions.


296 posted on 05/31/2010 10:05:29 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

I’ve filtered out and not bothered much with the NEW AGE aspect/facet/turf except to keep an occasional eye on it . . . for decades.

More than enough of my classmates/associates have been into various aspects and parts of the New Age horror over most of my adult life . . . and I quickly grew weary of that hideousness in the beginning.

Besides, imho, they’ve kind of ruined a wonderful place—Sedona.

imho, the New Age stuff mixes about 3 or 4 sub atomic particles worth of truth with galactic clusters full of deception and plain lies. No thanks. Not worth the bother—except to keep occasional tabs on the deceptions they are peddling.

The NWO and the ET’s/UFO stuff is somewhat related but a whole ‘nother order of the problem.

And they are DEADLY SERIOUS vs stary eyed clueless about anything of substance. Some of them may believe some of the New Age noise. Regardless, they are wholesale busy about brining forth the satanic world government.

And, if, as I expect, the UFOs/ETs will be more or less in the overt forefront of that at some point, I hope and pray Christians like you will not be overly catatonic for too many seconds or weeks because what’s distributed on the nightly news and on the corner town square is not fitting folks’ preconceived notions of reality.


297 posted on 05/31/2010 10:07:31 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: caww

Naw. Courts are not the fitting place.

HOwever, it is worth noting that a certain quality of evidence is of a level normally successful in court procedings.


298 posted on 05/31/2010 10:09:00 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix
Sedona group are fruitcakes par-excellant...That guy has two wives now though of course they don't call them that...and one is married to another...typical lunatic like ol’ Jim Jones...and the bucks flow heavily there I understand. I'm not familiar with Sedona except thru videos of this guys ranch...but I understand the area doesn't mind him there for the “tourist” monies generated into the community.

Wasn't sedonna and that guy the same place those people were killed who went into that sweat tent and he kept daring them to withstand the heat? I read the mistake made was covering the tent with plastic sheeting, further that it was common knowledge not to cover the area with plastic...so this guy isn't the least bit concerned for the safety of those people....which is usually the case.

299 posted on 05/31/2010 10:22:31 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

I didn’t follow that case.

I avoid all that when I go through on the way to Dad’s place. Some beloved FREEPERS live in Sedona, as well.

It’s a geographically beautiful and wonderful place.

In the spirit realm, it’s something else as a result of all the demonized folks.

The real locals think all that stuff is beyond looney and more than a little dangerous around the edges.

There is also purportedly a very secret buried govgt place North of the West end of Sedona, that some claim to have seen UFO’s going in and out of.


300 posted on 05/31/2010 10:29:12 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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