Posted on 05/15/2010 7:58:57 AM PDT by Colofornian
Whether he "subtly pushes" his religion or not and I'm not debating one way or another, an invitation to Beck is indeed giving a certain legitimacy to mormonism.
Who's addressing this from a "rights" angle?
Any church can invite who they want as their guest speaker. That, of course, is within their purview.
The larger question is: What reflection do they place upon the Christian community at-large by inviting those who produce materials for Deseret Inc. -- like Beck has -- which Deseret Inc. says on their very Web site promoting that product as a "missionary" tool to convert the very people Beck is speaking to?
And actually, this dove tails into a comment made by TheBattman in post #53: LIberty didn’t invite Beck to preach from the pulpit...
Beck's product I am referencing: the DVD An Unlikely Mormon: The Conversion Story of Glenn Beck (2008), which http://deseretbook.com (owned by the Mormon church) describes this DVD as a "presentation" where ..."Glenn Beck tells an audience of nearly 7,000 about his conversion to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints...Glenn bears his testimony about home teaching, tithing, and the transforming power of the Spirit....Glenn's story will strengthen the testimony of any Latter-day Saint. In addition, An Unlikely Mormon will be an ideal missionary tool.
You know, THeBattman, it's common when speakers come to special events for their entourage to set up a little booth off to the side offering the acquisition of their products. I wonder if Beck's people would have "An Unlikely Mormon" offered up for sale. (And if not, why not? Why keep this "tucked away?")
So it's Beck the Lds missionary, eh? (Only he sheds the white shirts, ties, backpacks & bicycles & just carts around his microphone)
You forget, TheBattman, that a person's "pulpit" -- like Beck's -- isn't always something he has to re-mount. One of his product pushers just has to pull out one of his previous pulpit engagements -- like "An Unlikely Mormon" -- and voila! -- Beck's portable pulpit!
Nice to know that Liberty is pushing people who produce "ideal Mormon missionary tools." (Meaning Liberty is a tool in and of itself)
I’ll bet you a cup of coffee that Glenn does ZERO to rpomote Mormonism or his conversion while doing this speaking gig. Glenn Beck loves America ... and he is doing something no one else including Rush Limbaugh seem able or willing to do: he’s educating the masses on the very foundational principles of this dying Republic, in the hope that it is not too late to pull our irons out of the socialist fire the obamacommie thuggery is building. I will be watching very closely the event. I’ll check back with you later on this issue.
And probably knows how to use it!
I'm not doubting your word but could you give me a reference to that?
Well, why would Glenn have to promote Mormonism directly???...Liberty already has (indirectly)!
All Liberty has to do is...
(a) provide some Web site address for Glenn as part of promoting their speaker...and allow people to independently hear Glenn's Mormon testimony...
and (b) Realize that it (Liberty) already has promoted Glenn in a broader generic way by this invite!...I mean, come on now, once one Christian-based org sets a precedent, other Christian orgs will follow, domino-effect like...
...and then once one Mormon speaker has gained such elevation and Christian-sanctioned credence, well, why stop @ Glenn? Why can't Glenn become a circuit speaker on all Christian campuses? Why could they not get a whole series of Mormon speakers coming to all their campuses? Why not Scientologist speakers? Why not Moonies who share the same "conservative values" as Christians? Why not a JW who shares the Christian vantage point against euthanasia?
If similar "conservative values" become the lone measurement for invitees, that opens up thousands of new speakers for Christian campuses.
Ooooooh. Let me get my decoder ring.
You seem a bit looney.
Lol. You never pass up an opportunity to bash a Mormon. I’m anxious to see the next to become famous. You’ll be the first to post. Your sure you’re a Christian?
You'll get plenty of that from this guy. You'll notice 99% of his posts have something to do with golden tablets, joseph smith or salt lake city. lol.
Never mind in my earlier wondering...I found the answer to my own Q in post #102...so thanks for allowing me to stress it again. Deseret Inc., in promoting its Beck product, "An Unlikely Mormon," answered this query for us:
Per Deseret, Glenn bears his testimony about home teaching, tithing,....Glenn's story will strengthen the testimony of any Latter-day Saint.
Believe me, the Lds church, which owns Deseret, isn't going to tout a lukewarm Mormon as one who inspires their grassroots' testimonies and one who sparkles and shines about Lds "home teaching" unless he was the real Mormon deal.
Uh oh. That makes you evil too don'tcha know. :-)
Well you know me. I'm thinkin' you should try spending more time learning and living up to your own profession rather than wasting your time in seeming bitterness.
Well, I sincerely thank you for the advice. It'd be good advice, too...were bitterness at all at root. (Ya gotta know, tho, I'm not ex-Mormon...just from an ex- Mormon extended family...no need to be bitter...My Lds relatives are great people whom I love...to the point I'd love to see them all in heaven forever...)
I am sorry, my FRiend, that you are having so much trouble over this incident. The obnoxious, nasty, ridiculing posts of one ‘humblegunner’ make this now such a distatseful thread that I won’t even try to discuss this openly with you. But you’ll be getting freepmail soon. FreeRepublic does have its fecal floaters don’tchaknow.
Will it be an issue if Mitt Romney runs? The Mittster may not be actively attempting to "convert" anyone, but anyone with any sense needs to take a mormon cult member's speech with a hugh grain of salt, imo. Beck is mormon; mormonism is a cult. Major chink in the armor of character, imo. Many others see it the same. Guess you don't....
Trouble is.........many know Beck can make sense.........but then they find that he's in a cult. Ooopsie. Kindof creates some immediate disbelief, I would think. Hmmm...
AMEN!
“I also doubt that Beck understands much about the theology of Mormonism, either. I suppose it is possible that he is a Bible-believing Christian who simply does not understand the cultish theology of Mormonism.”
Well, I’ve met many a “born-again” Christian who will tell you they believe the Catholic Church to be a cult too. Frankly, I’m thrilled that I’ve been relieved of the burden of needing to belong to any one organized religion. I find the self-righteousness and ‘my religion is the only true religion’ attitudes sad, offensive and narcissistic. I’ll bet God does too.
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