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The Rosary, a powerful weapon against the devil
http://www.michaeljournal.org/rosarypower.htm ^ | 2003 | Father Gabriel Amorth

Posted on 04/11/2010 6:09:57 PM PDT by stfassisi

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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Hegewisch Dupa

Too many of the “Reformed” are fearful of the Blessed Virgin Mary and of the Crucifix. Hmm, I wonder who that sounds like?


281 posted on 04/16/2010 6:27:07 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

LOL! Thank you for proving my point.


282 posted on 04/16/2010 6:27:33 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg


283 posted on 04/16/2010 6:31:11 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480
Reformed Christians have plenty of "regard" for Christ in the womb, in the manger, in the Temple."

But it was only Jesus' death on the cross and His active obedience to God's law that saved us.

Next we'll see Roman Catholics praying to the infant Jesus.

Oh, wait. We have seen those pictures.

"O miraculous Infant Jesus, I beseech Thee to cast a merciful look on my troubled heart. Let Thy tender Heart, so inclined to pity, be softened by my prayers and grant me the grace which I ardently implore (mention your need). For the sake of Thine Infancy, hear my prayer, and send me consolation and aid, that I may praise Thee with the Father and the Holy Ghost, forever and ever. Amen.

"For the sake of your infancy???"

I guess we should look at this particular infantisizing of Jesus Christ as a step up from elevating Mary to super-humanity.

That's some sort of progress, I suppose.

284 posted on 04/16/2010 6:36:59 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Pyro7480

Better. Keep it up.


285 posted on 04/16/2010 6:37:32 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
got hate?
286 posted on 04/16/2010 6:38:10 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Jesus Christ, as God, exists outside of time. He is eternal. Who is to say that we cannot address Him as an Infant? He certainly, as God, could hear our prayers when He was a baby, as He hears them “now.” It’s a way of recognizing His humanity.


287 posted on 04/16/2010 6:41:38 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Three out of four (I’m not sure about the second) are Catholic depictions (the last was painted by the famous Fra Angelico). And you say we “keep” Him on the Cross!


288 posted on 04/16/2010 6:42:53 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
We are saved by Christ's passive obedience regarding His death on the cross and His active obedience to God's law in all things.

May God protect us from all Reformers. Do you have any idea of the number of first millennium heresies you have just preached?

Flee from the idolatry Rome practices.

We worship God alone. Flee from Reformed heresies. I had no idea that you guys are that far removed from Christianity. No wonder you guys preach the gospel that you do. Say hi to Joseph Smith or Mary Baker Eddy or Ellen White for me when you guys join Calvin in the City of Dis. My eyes are opening a lot further since in my naivete, I thought that Calvinists preached Christianity.

289 posted on 04/16/2010 6:43:21 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Pyro7480
Jesus also submitted Himself to the Law by allowing Himself to be circumcised on the eighth day after His birth.

lol. You think there was a chance Jesus wouldn't be circumcised? That somehow the Jewish household of Mary and Joseph wouldn't follow the Law?

And you think this occurred because it was according to the wishes of the eight-day-old infant Jesus?

Wackier and wackier. Read your Bible. These RC superstitions aren't in it.

The "blood of Jesus' circumcision" did not save anyone. God forbid such idiotic perversions of the Christian faith.

290 posted on 04/16/2010 6:43:29 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Revolting cat!

Nope. I’ve got a Bible and much of what Rome preaches ain’t in it.


291 posted on 04/16/2010 6:45:11 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Pyro7480
Who is to say that we cannot address Him as an Infant?

God gave us His word to instruct our worship of Him. Show me in Scripture where we are to address the infant Jesus with our prayers.

292 posted on 04/16/2010 6:46:21 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Pyro7480

Christians do not “fear Mary.” We fear and thus rebuke idolatry and the hold it has on some Roman Catholics. Flee from it.


293 posted on 04/16/2010 6:47:36 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Pyro7480

Show us in Scripture where Jesus Christ calls Mary anything other than “woman.”


294 posted on 04/16/2010 6:49:12 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Don’t you believe that Jesus was once a baby?
It says it in the Bible.


295 posted on 04/16/2010 6:59:27 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

In most parts of the world, “Woman” is a title given to someone of great respect. More than just mother.

Just as the women of our Polish Dance group call their mothers, Baba. (woman)

To call a Latino mother “Vieja” (old woman) is also a sign of respect. Just because we don’t do this in English, doesn’t mean it isn’t so. Jesus didn’t speak in English.


296 posted on 04/16/2010 7:19:13 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
lol. You think there was a chance Jesus wouldn't be circumcised? That somehow the Jewish household of Mary and Joseph wouldn't follow the Law?

And you think this occurred because it was according to the wishes of the eight-day-old infant Jesus?

He emptied Himself and took the form of a slave. He knew what was going to happen to Him.

The "blood of Jesus' circumcision" did not save anyone.

I never claimed that. I said His whole life was a passion that lead up to THE Passion at Calvary. I can talk about "idiotic perversion of the Christian faith," but they are not contained inside the Catholic Church.

297 posted on 04/16/2010 7:23:39 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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"And you think this occurred because it was according to the wishes of the eight-day-old infant Jesus?"

He emptied Himself and took the form of a slave. He knew what was going to happen to Him.

You believe "Christ emptied Himself and took the form of a slave" when He was eight days old, and at eight days old He "knew what was going to happen to Him?"

You believe that?

298 posted on 04/16/2010 10:22:17 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: netmilsmom
In most parts of the world, “Woman” is a title given to someone of great respect. More than just mother.

lol. Wow. That truly is the weakest argument I've read from a Roman Catholic apologist yet to justify praying to Mary and elevating her above and beyond all recognition.

My mother wouldn't be too happy if I called her "woman." I doubt Mary preferred "woman" to hearing her Son call her "Mother," but Jesus was obviously making a point -- all believers are the equal of His mother.

299 posted on 04/16/2010 10:27:22 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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Yes, the church in Rome either infantisizes Jesus Christ or keeps Him suffering on the cross.

Several comments. "Infantisizes" is not a word.

Which church in Rome? Not the Catholic Church. The Presbys?

Jesus Christ is not suffering on the cross. No one can keep Him there. He overcame the cross for the salvation of the world. Every Catholic knows full well that the crucifix is NOT really Jesus. Do you? We remind ourselves what Christ endured for our sins, that He told us that we would have to take up our own crosses to be His followers, and that "greater love hath no man than this: that a man give up his life for another."

Is it a sin to remind ourselves of Christ's suffering? Is it a sin to think of the Son of God as our Savior, who paid the price for all by His ignominious death? Is it a sin to see the crucifix, be reminded, and then love Him above everything and everyone else?

It is hard to imagine anyone so confused as to think that Catholics keep Christ suffering on the cross. It's an image. AN IMAGE. No one worships an IMAGE. We use it to remind ourselves of His sacrifice, His love, and His salvation. CHRIST is real. An image is an image. Christ is no longer on the cross, but He WAS there, and died there, for us. Even for you.

300 posted on 04/16/2010 10:41:57 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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