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EWTN - NO PRICE TOO HIGH - Pentecostal minister Alex Jones story
EWTN ^ | March 3, 2010

Posted on 03/03/2010 10:14:34 AM PST by NYer

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To: srweaver

“Your claim is laughable on its face.”

Who was St. Jerome? Was he not a Catholic?

If the Catholic Church was founded by Christ and his Apostles, then yes, the Apostles were Catholic. They certainly weren’t Lutheran, they certainly weren’t protestant, so what were they?

“were no Roman Catholics when the Bible was written, Old or New Testaments.”

So who was the first Roman Catholic?


221 posted on 03/05/2010 3:18:35 PM PST by BenKenobi (And into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.)
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To: BenKenobi

I don’t know who the first Roman Catholic was, but I doubt that it was a former Jewish fisherman from Galillee.


222 posted on 03/05/2010 3:24:12 PM PST by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: BenKenobi
So who was the first Roman Catholic?

OOH OOOH, I know! I know! Constantine:)

223 posted on 03/05/2010 3:27:45 PM PST by Jvette
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To: srweaver

“I don’t know who the first Roman Catholic was,”

Then how do you know it wasn’t the Apostles?


224 posted on 03/05/2010 3:32:31 PM PST by BenKenobi (And into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.)
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To: mgist

It is great to be home isn’t it?

You, however, are much more gentle than me in your defense of the Church.


225 posted on 03/05/2010 3:33:28 PM PST by Jvette
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To: srweaver
BTW, do you feel that EVERY Catholic is a Christian?

Of what importance are my feelings about anyone else? God is the judge of who is, or who is not, a Christian.

226 posted on 03/05/2010 3:33:38 PM PST by Judith Anne (2012 Sarah Palin/Duncan Hunter 2012)
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To: mgist

I agree with your assessment that there are many Christians “in name only” in the visible church, Protestant and Catholic.

And I also am humbled by the godly example of Mary as a servant of God, as a woman, and as a mother. Truly she is blessed. Mother Theresa is/was a challenge to us all, in her service to the poor.

We should all endeavor to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace, but I cannot agree with you on the magisterium.


227 posted on 03/05/2010 3:34:33 PM PST by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: BenKenobi

Because I know who they were.


228 posted on 03/05/2010 3:36:06 PM PST by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: srweaver
As a Catholic I would prefer any God loving servant in control. Obviously Obama is not Catholic and you are glad? Catholicism brought a grand renaissance to Europe, sadly most now lost and devoid their faith. I love the fact that no Catholic teacher or priest has ever taught animosity towards fellow Christians. My fear of God would never allow me to sway anybody from their faith in God in any religion.

When I was little a Jehovah Witness told me the Pope was the devil, and scared the **** out of me. I have no doubt that because of that, I strayed from God, and I now pray for her soul may she rest in peace. She was later diagnosed with a mental illness, before she passed away. Jesus did say, you are better off with an anchor around your neck, than to take away the faith of my children.

I was naive in placing my child in a Christian school. I had no idea how rampant the animosity was. I guess I should have known better from my childhood experience. We live and we learn.

229 posted on 03/05/2010 3:36:43 PM PST by mgist
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To: NYer

If one opens his or her heart to Christ, the Holy Spirit will lead one home to His Church. It is not easy, as many false teachings that have been embraced are difficult to cast off, but as Paul taught, we must test our faith.


230 posted on 03/05/2010 3:36:43 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Judith Anne

True enough, God is the judge.

I was just responding to your statement that Catholics are Christians. I took it you meant to imply that they should be excluded from the list of people that evangelicals should share the gospel with.

Sorry if I mistook your intent.

If however, I share my faith (the gospel) with Catholics or anyone else, and it turns out that they are already Christians, then that witness merely turns into fellowship...as it should.


231 posted on 03/05/2010 3:40:58 PM PST by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: srweaver
We should all endeavor to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace, but I cannot agree with you on the magisterium.

Don't you find a problem with the fact that any creep can come along, call themselves "Christians" pitch a tent, and start promising people salvation?

Thousands of "churches" are popping up everywhere to preach hate in the name of our beloved Savior Jesus!

3/2/10

3 guilty of murder for starving infant who didn't say 'Amen'

232 posted on 03/05/2010 3:42:59 PM PST by mgist
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To: mgist

You may be naive in believing that “no Catholic teacher or priest has ever taught animosity towards fellow Christians.”

That, simply, is historically untrue.

However, we pray, “Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors,” and hope in the present and future truth of your statement.

Sorry you had some bad experiences with your child.


233 posted on 03/05/2010 3:46:39 PM PST by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: srweaver
"You may be naive in believing that “no Catholic teacher or priest has ever taught animosity towards fellow Christians.”

I am a life long Catholic. NEVER has a priest said anything negative to me about fellow Christians. NEVER!

We live in 2 different worlds as far as that is concerned.

234 posted on 03/05/2010 3:54:23 PM PST by mgist
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To: mgist

I don’t think you want to get into atrocities or abuses committed by those whom the church, Catholic or otherwise, has approved for ministry.

I find it a tragedy that people don’t know the Bible and aren’t able to protect themselves from the error that comes at them either from within the church or from without.

No, I don’t have a problem with the fact that people have freedom of speech and freedom of religion. It was the absence of those things during the Dark Ages that led to many abuses through the “church.” However, the Protestant Restoration, and the dissemination of the Bible and the Judeo Christian ethic throughout the West brought much relief to Europe. It even led to some reformation within the Catholic Church in an effort to stop the hemorrhaging of people to Protestantism.


235 posted on 03/05/2010 4:02:07 PM PST by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: mgist

That is wonderful. May it ever be so!


236 posted on 03/05/2010 4:03:09 PM PST by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: Jvette
You, however, are much more gentle than me in your defense of the Church.

Thank you friend. We are spoiled brats. I think a short absence made the heart grow fonder. Also being in a great evangelical Catholic church made be grow in amazing ways. Bible study, the Cathechism, FAMILIA training, it isn't a sacrifice, it is a blessing! It is simply amazing to learn our history. Knowledge is power.

When I tell you that for Lent I am going to daily mass, and I laugh at myself for for who I've become, and what I was. The thought of wanting to go to daily mass blows my mind, but being filled with the Holy Spirit is euphoric. I love it, I was missing out for long time.

237 posted on 03/05/2010 4:08:58 PM PST by mgist
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To: mgist

I laugh at myself for what I was and what I voluntarily missed out on because of my stubbornness. But, the laughter is joyful for in some ways I appreciate it all so much more for having starved myself of it for so long.

I was away for 20 years and like a man starving I gorged myself on it all. Daily Mass, Ha! I fasted every day for Lent one year!

Well, I just wanted to comment to you as I am only an inFRequent visitor here and had never seen anything posted by you.

I said you are gentle, but after the last couple of posts, I sense some steel in your spine as well:)


238 posted on 03/05/2010 4:21:02 PM PST by Jvette
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To: srweaver
Humanity has done terrible things. The church has made mistakes. The Catholic church has been under attack, even from within, for centuries. After over 2,000 years, Hades still hasn't prevailed.

A Catholic priest has to study tehology, from 6-12 years. I have never met such educated men. You can go to any Catholic church in the world and the mass will be the same, perhaps in different languages. In five years, the Old and New testament is read in it's entirety in catholic Masses.

I'm glad you feel theologically superior, but I have a problem with priests who selectively pick biblical passages to suit their personal interests. Such as using the Old Testament to claim that God unleashed His wrath on the Jewsbecause they sacrificed with incense and had icons, as opposed the fact that they were worshipping the God's of the Sumerian's and the Egyptians. God demand that we worship Him, he doesn't condemn us for having icons. That's silly.

239 posted on 03/05/2010 4:23:00 PM PST by mgist
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To: srweaver

Did you talk to them?


240 posted on 03/05/2010 4:24:07 PM PST by BenKenobi (And into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.)
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