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TIME names "New Calvinism" 3rd Most Powerful Idea Changing the World
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| March 12, 2009
| David Van Biema
Posted on 02/28/2010 8:30:39 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: ShadowAce; blue-duncan; P-Marlowe; Alamo-Girl
BD -Gods foreknowledge is according to His predetermination... SA -I think this is where we disagree. God's predetermination is according His foreknowledge.
And this is where I disagree with both of you. I do not believe that God has a divided mind. I don't imagine one piece of God uninformed by the others and vice versa.
My God is not schizoid.
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posted on
03/05/2010 9:16:11 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
To: Alamo-Girl
To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
I dearly love this, A-G. Eden and so much more.
"But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him." 1 Co 2:9
what is the html for a different font: arial, nyt, etc.
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posted on
03/05/2010 9:19:54 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
To: xzins
Sorry--that's not what I was saying. I probably was not as clear as I could have been.
"God's predetermination" is--to me--His decision as to the fate of sinners. God's foreknowledge of our sins, and the ultimate decision we all make, is not based on puppeteering. He has determined (predestined) where we will go, based on His foreknowledge of our lives.
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posted on
03/05/2010 9:22:02 AM PST
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: xzins; kosta50; betty boop; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; MHGinTN; TXnMA; Mr Rogers
Truly, I suspect the questions concerning what God was doing before Creation and whether He pardoned Satan (Genesis v Job v Revelation) - and even the never-ending dispute over predestination v free will - derive from man's tendency to apply his arrow of time to God. God, being Creator of "all that there is" - which includes time - is not delimited by any such thing as time, much less an arrow of time.
Or to put it another way, a thing is true because God says it. Time, whether a line, plane or volumetric, is irrelevant to God because He is not time-bound. We are.
Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; [I am] God, and [there is] none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: - Isaiah 46:9-10
For instance, Christ is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world, we are in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world. Christ is always the conquering Lion of the tribe of Judah and He is also always the Lamb of God.
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. - Revelation 13:8 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. - Revelation 5:6
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. - Hebrews 10:14
First cause and final cause are sensible to man as the observer because he is time-bound and perceives time as an arrow. But God has revealed His Name to us both as Alpha and Omega and I AM.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Revelation 1:8 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. - Exodus 3:14
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. - John 8:58
As soon then as he had said unto them, I am [he], they went backward, and fell to the ground. - John 18:6
Truly, man is not the measure of God..
To: xzins
< font face="Arial" size="2" >
Minus the spaces, of course.
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posted on
03/05/2010 9:23:40 AM PST
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: ShadowAce; blue-duncan
BD: Gods foreknowledge is according to His predetermination...
SA : I think this is where we disagree. God's predetermination is according His foreknowledge. I disagree with both of you. They are intricately intertwined, but I don't think you can say whether one takes precedence over the other. I think that God is free to have foreknowledge as the basis for his predetermination and likewise he is free to have his predetermination be the basis of his foreknowledge. We are not privy to God's methods, only his results.
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posted on
03/05/2010 9:24:13 AM PST
by
P-Marlowe
(LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
To: xzins; ShadowAce; blue-duncan
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posted on
03/05/2010 9:25:59 AM PST
by
P-Marlowe
(LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
To: xzins
I love that passage, too, dear brother in Christ! Thank you so much for sharing it and for all of your encouragements! The HTML commands to set the font (e.g. Arial) and type size (e.g. 2) are (drop the commas): <,FONT FACE="Arial" SIZE="2"> and of course to end it, <,/FONT>.
To: blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; raynearhood; xzins; HarleyD; RnMomof7; the_conscience
Yes.That's the best answer I've seen yet.
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posted on
03/05/2010 9:27:19 AM PST
by
P-Marlowe
(LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
To: Alamo-Girl; ShadowAce
Thanks to you both for the html lesson. “font face” is the key, isn’t it? I kept trying it with “font” and getting noplace.
Behold how blessed when God’s Children dwell together in unity. :>)
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posted on
03/05/2010 9:29:08 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
To: xzins
I'll give you a hint on discovering html tricks you see others do on this forum:
highlight (with your mouse) the section of code you want to see, right-click, then choose "view selection source". You'll see the html being used. It's pretty cool.
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posted on
03/05/2010 9:33:01 AM PST
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: xzins; ShadowAce; P-Marlowe; Alamo-Girl
“And this is where I disagree with both of you.”
Is that like my Yes?
To: P-Marlowe
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posted on
03/05/2010 9:45:10 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
To: blue-duncan
Is that like my Yes? Yes and no
(BTW...great story about K. I'm stealing it to appear in some future sermon at some future date, TGLW.)
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posted on
03/05/2010 9:46:53 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
To: ShadowAce
Thanks, SA. I’m only getting a view source if I don’t highlight something first. Is my system different?
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posted on
03/05/2010 9:47:44 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
To: xzins
Is my system different? Could be. I'm using Firefox. It should be a standard firefox option.
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posted on
03/05/2010 9:49:09 AM PST
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: Alamo-Girl; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; ShadowAce
Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; [I am] God, and [there is] none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: - Isaiah 46:9-10
God knows ends and beginnings, AND He "counsels" with Himself, AND He "decides (do all)" according to His "pleasure (purposes)"
I don't know how this verse could more clearly say that God has all things in both pre-considered and all things pre-decided. What does He look at in us? Jesus said that some he addressed were children of their father, the devil. He obviously didn't mean genetic code.
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posted on
03/05/2010 9:57:36 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
To: xzins; blue-duncan; Alamo-Girl; ShadowAce
Brothers The UnfetteredLOL!
I get the feeling that everyone on this forum thinks we are both heretics.
Personally I think it only applies to you.
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posted on
03/05/2010 9:57:47 AM PST
by
P-Marlowe
(LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
To: P-Marlowe
499
posted on
03/05/2010 9:59:04 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
To: ShadowAce
How do I know if I’m using firefox or, for that matter, what I am using?
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posted on
03/05/2010 10:00:16 AM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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