Posted on 02/23/2010 9:25:41 AM PST by stfassisi
>> When I wrote, “There are protestants here who,” I explicitly and clearly refrained from attributing the posts of one protestant to all protestants.
You cited the “there are Protestants who” line as a defense of a baseless Catholic diatribe against all Protestants. The fact that you regard this ridiculous attack on Protestant theology as justifiable due to those comments is the functional equivalent of blaming all Protestants.
Pardon me if I fail to see your distinction.
SnakeDoc
At this point, Protestantism is already scattered beyond repair. To pretend that it is just fine and a matter of personal interpretation of scripture does nothing to bring the Protestants back, and they need to be back.
Again, I regret that it is an unpleasant discovery for you.
You need not regret anything. As I said, I have no more regard for your smear campaign than I do for that of a run-of-the-mill Christian-hating athiest. As such, your rants have not engendered any “discovery”, unpleasant or otherwise.
SnakeDoc
A “smear” would be saying something that cannot be substantiated. Everything I said I also substantiated.
If you ever screw up enough courage to provide answers to ANY of the many questions I've posed about the anti-American and anti-Conservative positions of John Rao, please post them.
Right now, I'm reading an essay from the Catalyst, a journal published by William Donohue's Catholic League. It's about a book review written by E. Michael Jones, who took part in the panel discussion after John Rao's 2006 speech in the Czech Republic. Just like Cardinal Vlk, they think that Jones is an anti-semite. They also argue he can't get his theology right. Interesting.
As I’ve clearly stated, I do not regard you, your religion, or your smear campaign highly enough to bother arguing over your ‘substantiation’.
Your assertions are a nonstarter, and reveal less about me and my faith than they do about you and yours. Move along.
SnakeDoc
If you haven’t seen it already, take a look at Gabriel Audisio’s _The Waldensian Dissent: Persecution and Survival c.1170-c.1570_.
Well, good for you. When you've finished giving direction to God on His revelation to the world, and where He has gone wrong, and how to correct it, what will you do next?
God gives direction to me, not the reverse. He may not be as visible as the Pope, but we have a rapport.
SnakeDoc
Thanks, but I picked it up at the gift shop of the Waldensian Heritage Museum, in Valdese, NC a while back.
http://www.waldensian.org/mailinglist.php
Fascinating.
He may not be as visible as the Pope, but we have a rapport.
If you don't mind me asking, what form does that rapport take? How does God communicate with you?
Cool kittens! Thanks for the links!
The same way He communicates with your pope (in theory) ... through Word and deed. I’m sure the pope will explain it to you someday.
SnakeDoc
I suppose that I am ignorant of that, being of a lesser level than others. Could you possibly illuminate we lesser beings of your revelation directly from God?
I’m sure the pope will explain it to you someday.
Possibly, but I am asking you to explain your revelation to me now.
>> I suppose that I am ignorant of that, being of a lesser level than others.
That’s a shame. It must be rough being that disconnected from your God and His Son. Rest assured, He’s looking for you ... so keep looking for Him.
>> Possibly, but I am asking you to explain your revelation to me now.
A personal relationship with God cannot be explained. It must be experienced to be understood. The Baptist faith may be able to help, if you ever get the inclination.
SnakeDoc
That’s a shame. It must be rough being that disconnected from your God and His Son. Rest assured, He’s looking for you ... so keep looking for Him.
How do things look in the front row?
Luke 18: 9 He then addressed this parable to those who were convinced of their own righteousness and despised everyone else. 10 "Two people went up to the temple area to pray; one was a Pharisee and the other was a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee took up his position and spoke this prayer to himself, 'O God, I thank you that I am not like the rest of humanity--greedy, dishonest, adulterous--or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week, and I pay tithes on my whole income.' 13 But the tax collector stood off at a distance and would not even raise his eyes to heaven but beat his breast and prayed, 'O God, be merciful to me a sinner.' 14 I tell you, the latter went home justified, not the former; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and the one who humbles himself will be exalted."
I admit that you are so great.
A personal relationship with God cannot be explained. It must be experienced to be understood.
Gnosticism too? You have displayed much unChristian and now Gnostic beliefs. Anything more?
The Baptist faith may be able to help, if you ever get the inclination.
Which Baptist faith?
I do not make a secret of any of my views, but I will not sidetrack the thread to discuss them here.
Neither are thoughts of Dr. Rao on other subject relevant here, and, further, he is among banned sources.
>> How do things look in the front row?
I’ll let you know when I get there.
I am not great, and my relationship with Christ is not unique ... and neither is your pope’s. He reveals Himself through His Word, and through His very real presence in my life.
A personal relationship with Christ is common among Baptists that have accepted Him — and is quite common in the 50K+ member Baptist church I attend. I cannot speak to whether it is common among other Protestant denominations, but I suspect it is.
It is both telling and regretful that Catholics do not seem to comprehend such a relationship.
SnakeDoc
I’ll let you know when I get there.
Sounds like you think that you are already there vis a vis your claimed personal revelation from God.
I am not great, and my relationship with Christ is not unique
You have not explained what it is.
He reveals Himself through His Word, and through His very real presence in my life.
What is the process of the revelation?
A personal relationship with Christ is common among Baptists that have accepted Him
I am interested in the form and the process that you claim results in the personal relationship. You have claimed that God reveals things to you. How, specifically?
It is both telling and regretful that Catholics do not seem to comprehend such a relationship.
Without being too smug, please illuminate those of us who are not blessed with this level of revelation from God.
Hic Rhodus, hic saltus!
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