The Barren Harvest of Protestantism

http://jcrao.freeshell.org/BarrenHarvest ^ | 1984 | Dr John Rao

[RnMomof7]

To: stfassisi; irishtenor I doubt you or anyone else who made certain comments actually read the article,dear IT.It’s more about the damage done by Calvinism’s horrible doctrine of total depravity.

Do you believe in original sin?
Do you even know what total depravity means?

94 posted on 02/23/2010 5:50:42 PM PST by RnMomof7 [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]
To: RnMomof7

Irish wrote .... No, he doesn’t.

And apparently he does not want to know.. it is easier to fight paper tigers than real ones..

[BibChr]

I have observed in the past the RM is (was? have there been many?) eager to protect cultists of all stripes from Christians.

[xone]

When this figure first surfaced among Roman Catholic apologists, it started at 20,000 Protestant denominations, grew to 23,000 Protestant denominations, then to 25,000 Protestant denominations. More recently, that figure has been inflated to 28,000, to over 32,000. These days, many Roman Catholic apologists feel content simply to calculate a daily rate of growth (based on their previous adherence to the original benchmark figure of 20,000) that they can then use as a basis for projecting just how many Protestant denominations there were, or will be, in any given year. But just where does this figure originate?

Made up, just like the number of uninsured.

[xone]

It would be more fair to say that he is reactionary of the European type, not a leftist.

A distinction without a difference when it comes to his anti-Americanism, anti-freedom outlook.

[the_conscience]

Those Romanists judges who would like to see abortion outlawed are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

While they no doubt believe abortion is wrong they are also strong believers in the theory of precedence and stare decisis. Think of it in terms of Roman Canon Law. Once a doctrine (law) is promulgated it can’t be overturned. The best they can do is nibble around the edges. The liberal activist judges are less constrained by precedence and are more likely to overturn law but of course they have no desire to overturn Roe v Wade.

[the_conscience]

As I said in another post Rome’s concern is about cutting out a niche for their Church in each State. That means finding points of agreement and compromise.

[Pyro7480]

As I said in another post Rome’s concern is about cutting out a niche for their Church in each State. That means finding points of agreement and compromise.

More "Reformed" conspiracy theorizing...

[the_conscience]

I don't equate the USCCB with "Rome," nor should you

I thought the whole theory of the One, True Church was based on the apostolic succession of the bishops? How can I not equate the bishops with Rome?

[Pyro7480]

I thought the whole theory of the One, True Church was based on the apostolic succession of the bishops? How can I not equate the bishops with Rome?

I'm talking about the specific agenda of the USCCB, which is often at odds with perennial Catholic teaching.

For example, take a look at this effort by lay Catholics: Reform CCHD Reps Reveal on EWTN Shocking Evidence Against USCCB Anti-Poverty Arm

[RnMomof7]

ROFL!!! Suuuuuuure it does. From the anti-Catholic bigot POV

Please define "anti Catholic"

[RnMomof7]

Yep... like the doctrine of men :)

[the_conscience]

Got a source for that? Because I don't believe it.

Do you read the news? Ben Nelson became the rope in a tug of war between the USCCB and the Left.

I had a tiff with wagglebee over this some time ago and documented the USCCB position. I have neither the time nor inclination to look it up for you.

[xzins]

I have been on no anti-cath or anti-prot threads

This thread ,and any like it, however, violate the standards as sted when new relig mod took over a while back. We were told that no articles with intentionally provocative titles would stand, that they would just lead to foodfights. That’s still true

[RnMomof7]

So you think changing the name of the thread would make it ok??

I do not really mind threads that call all of us to account for what we believe and why.. but I think there need be evenhandedness when deciding to lock threads..

[wagglebee]

I had a tiff with wagglebee over this some time ago and documented the USCCB position. I have neither the time nor inclination to look it up for you.

Yes, your OPINION of the Catholic position on health care was patently false.

[the_conscience]

Interesting that Pyro thinks the USCCB is at odds with “Catholic” teaching and wagglebee does not think so.

[Pyro7480]

Where did wagglebee say so?

[ctdonath2]

Ah, yet another thread promoting The One True Messiah via theological cage fighting.

[ctdonath2]

How about addressing Martin Luther’s 95 Theses? instead of yet another prolonged diatribe setting up straw men only to self-righteously knock them down.

[esquirette]

Amen. I was thinking the same thing myself.

Not only is the article slanted but it is disingenuous about the issues of the Reformation.