Posted on 02/06/2010 4:12:33 AM PST by NYer
Catholic ping!
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No. The announcement about this year's display, was made about 6 months ago.
Based on the shroud image.
I doubt the authenticity of The Shroud of Turin. In both the Luke and John it indicates there was more than one cloth covering the body of Christ. Also, John writes that a “handkerchief” covered Christ’s head. This will be debated until Christ returns and all knowledge will be revealed.
That would be the Sudarium. It is in Oviedo Spain and the blood pattern and type match up with the Shroud.
I like many have followed the shroud debate for years. After looking at this from a logical point of view it was finally the fact that the shroud is in 2D, like in a photograph or TV. The shroud does not pass the 3D test at all, so it is impossible for it to be a real death shroud.
The theory that it was created by Da Vinci holds the most water for me. He was at the place and time it first showed up, and he had the tools, skills & a financial sponsor who oddly enough was the first family to “find” the shroud.
Sorry, it’s just a great piece of art. IMHO.
Thanks for that information and the link to the article. Another fascinating twist to this mystery.
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The Peculiar 3D Phenomenon of the Shroud of Turin Image
For simplicity, let's confine our discussion to black and white pictures. The Shroud, after all, is monochromatic: brown and white actually.
Like any painting or photograph of a face or an entire human body (or for that matter a vase, apple or any three dimensional object) brightness represents light. Look at a full frontal picture of a man. The tip of his nose approaches white and the depth of the recesses of his eyes are darker. The roundness of his face from his cheeks towards his ears is progressively darker. At first glance, the face on the Shroud of Turin appears to be such a picture. It isn't.
How do we know this? All regular pictures, be they paintings or photographs, represent light coming from some direction and being reflected towards our eyes. The eye of the painter or the camera lens is a proxy for our own eyes. The reason the recesses of a man's eyes are darker than the tip of his nose is because less light gets to into the recess. Image analysis shows us that this is not so with the facial image on the Shroud. There is no direction to what seems like light. Something else is causing the lighter and darker shades. That is looks like light to us is an optical illusion.
Look at the black and white picture that looks like a smoke ring. We might think that this is light reflected off of the smoke. It is not. This is an analog data file of elevation, sometimes called a bump map in the world of computer graphics. With special computer software we can plot the data, the brighter and darker tones, as an elevation. That is exactly what we can do with the image on the Shroud of Turin: plot it as an elevation.
Let's be clear: You can not plot a regular photograph this way. Nor can you do so for a painting, even a brown and white painting. You can do so with a precise copy of the Shroud, however.
Not only does this show that the image on the Shroud is not a photograph or painting, it shows that something extraordinary occurred to form the image.
The theory that it was created by Da Vinci holds the most water for me.
He painted a 3D image?
Wow.
He painted a 3D image?
No one really knows how he did it but the best guess is an early form of photography. Being that it was made to fool people in the first place there are no records of its creation. Fake religious icons were big money makers for local churches.
As to 3D you must consider the simple fact that if the shroud was placed on a body that the entire image would be “three times wider” as you must account for the space present on the SIDES of the body. The image on the shroud is simply far, far too skinny.
Also look at the full image of the shroud and look at the space between the face and the back of the head. Now mentally wrap it around a human head. If this was a real shroud then Jeasus would be about one inch thick from front to back.
So you are saying DaVinci invented photography? This has already been disproven.
Christ Pantocrator Icon at St. Catherine's
Monastery in the Sinai. Grid lines have been
added for comparison to the Shroud's face.
Alignment of the Shroud Face and the icon
Shroud of Turin Face
The Christ Pantocrator Icon at St. Catherine's Monastery in the Sinai
Two years ago I was in northern Italy on business and my host took us to Turin on a Sat evening for dinner. I was quite shocked at how large the city was, esp the downtown area. The church that holds the shroud is in the downtown area and was well lit during that evening. As we walked by the church, I had an amazing feeling rush over me - I’ll never forget it!
Describe your feeling for us. Freep mail me if you prefer.
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