Posted on 01/05/2010 9:46:47 PM PST by the_conscience
Chick is not to be mentioned at all on the Religion Forum.
That is already the case. There are 13 eastern rite Catholic churches. They are orthodox in liturgy and theology, but in full communion with the pope.
Personally, I consider the Orthodox equally entitled to claim apostolic succession with Roman Catholics. Many of my brethren don’t agree.
In addition, there are several churches that call themselves Catholic but are not in communion, and imho are not particularly Catholic. There is no inquisition anymore to keep these things straight. Kind of a pity, that.
They can call themselves whatever they want. So can the Calvinists and the Arminians, for that matter. It’s not as if the Catholic Church (Roman, FYI) gives out licenses granting who can be called what. It’s just according to our beliefs and traditions they are not truly part of the universal church.
As a cradle Episcopalian, I can tell you that the Anglican Church is not an “Anglo-Catholic Church” although there are many “Anglo-Catholics” in it. I came out of the Protestant Evangelical wing of the Church myself. Sad to say, both we and the Anglo-Catholics are leaving the Church in droves because of the present ascendacy of the Homos, Pagans and other assorted Leftists who have basically taken over this once great Church.
Works for me.
I’ve had it with that arrogance.
I’ve done back flips to try and work things out mutually agreeably on such matters.
I’m still reasonably ready to work with the saner more authentic blokes in that camp should something realistic surface.
However, I’m not holding my breath.
They can suck rocks or beads or their thumbs for all I care.
I’m seriously considering relegating the worst of them to NONPERSON status in my list of priorities.
I’m quite willing to follow your suggestion—the rest can call me Christian without calling themselves Christian. We’ll see how the shoe fits on the other foot. Though we know they can never tolerate that.
They compulsively DEMAND that the negative shoes always and only fit on the shoes of us CHRISTIANS.
What wicked arrogance!
BTW, if anyone wants to comment in a differrent, more CHRISTIAN friendly context, on the essay:
THE DEADLINESS OF RELIGIONISM
It’s available here:
http://daaixin.wordpress.com/2010/01/06/deadliness-of-religionism/
ABSOLUTELY!
LIFE-RIGHT ON.
THANKS TONS. I’d begun to wonder if anyone was awake or cared about such realities.
Because the Blood of Jesus makes me so.
IF THE BLOOD OF JESUS is insufficient for use of a CAPITAL C, then NO AMOUNT OF powermongering arrogance by the Vatican magicsterical will ever be sufficient in a trillion years.
I don’t really care about funny looks I’d rather be truthful.
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INDEED.
I suspect ‘St Peter’s’ ‘funny’ as in curious—not laughing—at the exclusionistic monopolizing attempts to pretend that they alone were truly properly catholic will wither whatever pride they dared try to approach Heaven with . . . assuming they have sufficient humility to make that fork in the road period.
What spiritually deadly arrogant hubris.
WRONG.
It’s not “just” any such thing.
As we have seen from FR’s founding hereon,
The Vatican Affiliates, Papal Submissives, Roman Catholics, Papists [just to be clear who all’s included]
have DEMANDED that all others on the forum and particularly CHRISTIANS i.e. PROTTYS
KOWTOW to, SUBMIT to, SUBSCRIBE TO, COMPLY WITH
the HERETICAL NOTION that The Vatican affiliated congregations and “Sees” ALONE warrant the proper, ‘authentically original Christian’ “Catholic Church” label.
And, the idiotic infinitely arrogant finger frother cliques of the Vatican Affiliates hereon have become so shrill about it in the last few years that it has become absolutely intolerable to even hint of complying with any further.
My spirit rises within me and declares ENOUGH! NO MORE KOWTOWING IN THE SLIGHTEST to such heresy.
The Papal Submissives so thrilled with demanding submission from all others can just pretend they are learning to deal with it.
Better to deal with it with us CHRISTIANS (i.e.Prottys) than have to face Jesus with such arrogance.
I guess that kicks out the Maronite and Byzantine Catholics.
;-)
Personally,
any authentic Christians not welcomed under the
Vatican Affiliates/ Papal Submissives umbrella . . .
would be welcome under whatever the CHRISTIANS/ PROTTY label is.
I am confused with your statement. Which part of her post #30 was arrogant and which part was hubris?
Was it her statement, Catholics believe in Christ?
Or was it her assertion, In other words, Catholic ARE Christians?
Now if you were to comment on the incredible naiveté of her statement, I believe that you believe that, I would be in full agreement with you. There are those who base a significant portion, if not the majority, of their theology on that fact. In fact, I am certain that there are some who are petitioning our Heavenly Father for the right to help push all Catholics into the fiery pit in the Day (and who will bitterly complain in Heaven when they find out exactly about how wrong they were on earth). I wouldn't be surprised, in fact, if a few of them wouldn't petition to be sent to Hell rather than to be forced to spend eternity with Catholics in Heaven.
I think you understand me quite well, Dear Bro.
If not, then perhaps posts 325 and particularly 326 here will help clarify things, further.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2420096/posts?page=326#326
Well stated. I assert we are both catholic believers, but not denominationally Roman Catholics.
You don't get that kind of power.
As God wills.
Wouldn't it be more accurate to then say the lineage is traceable back closer to Adam and Eve?
Imagine being ashamed of the church were you were baptized.
Imagine hating the Catholic Church so much as to be incapable of referring to it by name.
As to why the “Romanists” insist on being called Catholic to the exclusion of everyone else, perhaps it’s for the same reason that Dr. Eckleburg and other Protestants insist on being called “Christian” to the exclusion of everyone else, and those in communion with the Patriarch insist on being called Orthodox that to the exclusion of everyone else.
Is it so hard to accept a term in several different senses? Do we really want to play this game? Let me know, because I’d be happy to tweak my FRiends here who are “Heterodox Presbyterians”.
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