Who are the Catholics: The Orthodox or The Romanists, or both?

Me

[Natural Law]

"I really see no need to go further with this as the thread is chocked full of the very things you are mentioning and the debates about."

Everything that you just listed as being wrong with the Church is factually incorrect, yet you continue to refer to them with some conviction. I don't know where you got your information, it certainly was not from the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

You need to question the motives of whoever fed you the misinformation and either attempt to learn the truth or keep your unfounded opinions to yourself.

[caww]

"Everything that you just listed as being wrong with the Church is factually incorrect" You are saying then...The Pope, the priesthood, rites, etc. I listed are "factually incorrect"....Sounds like you are in agreement. There is no need to question the motives of my source...He is the Father of all truth.

[caww]

"Everything that you just listed as being wrong with the Church is factually incorrect" You are saying then...The Pope, the priesthood, rites, etc. I listed are "factually incorrect"....Sounds like you are in agreement. There is no need to question the motives of my source...He is the Father of all truth.

[Natural Law]

"There is no need to question the motives of my source...He is the Father of all truth."

God did not lie about the Catholic Church, but someone obviously did. Who ever did did God and themselves no good in doing so. You cannot legitimately compare the beliefs and practices of the Catholic Church to Scripture if you have never learned what they are.