These are the Holy Chinese Martyrs of the Boxer Rebellion who died for their Faith at the hands of the pagans.
Posted on 01/02/2010 4:59:08 AM PST by NYer
Ah, so am I safe in concluding that you reject Nicea? That would explain your less than orthodox Christian position and apparent lack of understanding of the Trinitarian theology of The Church, a theology, btw, shared by all the Reformers of the Protestant Revolutionso as far as I know.
Did someone tell you this or did you come to this conclusion all by yourself? If the latter, what did you base this conclusion on...the Scriptures The Church canonized and gave you? If the former, please, do tell us who this person was and what his/her qualifications were to make such a sweeping, and rather presumptuous, statement. Did he bring his own snake along when he preached this?
Written by Nicolaitans for their pleasure, and power.
I accept the Word of God; need little else.
I think Petronski is afraid of snakes.
The Creed? Do you know who the Nicolaitans were?
I sincerely doubt that. In context they are an object of derision, not fear.
I’m afraid of you. Are you a snake?
Yes, those that created a false humanist hierarchy to rule over the Lord's church. He said that he hated them. All men that call themselves "priests" are the Nicolaitans. There is no one between the saints and the Lord; he is our only priest. Each of us answers to him only.
You’re afraid of all of us that read the word, and know the truth. You didn’t need to tell me that.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Nope. They weren't 4th century either, though if you are a "Bible Believing Christian", you should know that. You should also know why they were condemned. So here's a question for you. Why would you want lurkers here to think that the Nicolaitan heretics were extant in the 4th century and wrote the Creed when that is demonstrably untrue. Is there a point to such foolishness or are you simply attracted to the heresy of the Nicolaitans?
The vast majority of Christians do not share your hatred of the Catholic Church. Do not try to pull hundreds of millions of good Christians into your gutter.
You are the heresey of the nicolaitans. They are the owners of all the churches today.
Real churches meet in homes, not palaces, just like in the first century.
Your definition of “Christian” clearly includes the tares.
We do not need to understand nor do we or you have to embrace any such notion...
Whether I believe your theory or not in no way diminishes my standing with God...
God was here before Mary...She could not under any circumstances be the Mother of God...Jesus (God) was not created in Mary's womb...
Did the only begotten Son enter into Mary's womb as a little baby??? As a Godly sperm???
When you guys baptize a baby and the baby is filled with the Holy Spirit, does the Holy Spirit become a little baby, or is the Spirit fully grown as we might perceive Him to be...
The fact is, it doesn't matter...It's a mystery God didn't reveal to you, me, or anyone else...
I didn't say that it did. I have no idea what your "standing with God is". If, however, you want to be within The Church, you should accept the dogmatic declarations of the Ecumenical Councils. It is 100% your choice.
"God was here before Mary...She could not under any circumstances be the Mother of God...Jesus (God) was not created in Mary's womb..."
God was indeed here "before" Mary. Tell me, I, was there a time when God was "not"? As for what happened in Mary's womb, the Creed says that the Logos, born of the Father before all ages, the Son of God, was "Enfleshed" (or Incarnated) by the Holy Spirit and of the Virgin Mary and "became Man". So you are right, the Son of God, the Logos, was not "created in Mary's womb", but He was "enfleshed" there and was born True Man from there. This is the theology of a mystery, I.
"Did the only begotten Son enter into Mary's womb as a little baby??? As a Godly sperm???"
We only know and proclaim what the Gospel says in that regard, I. The Holy Spirit came over her.
When the Orthodox in Greece under the Turkokratia met in secret caves to worship, or when under some communist regimes other Orthodox throughout Eastern Europe did the same, or when it happens these days in Turkey and throughout the Mohammedan world, is the Orthodox Church then a "real church" but not when the oppression ends?
Opression does tend to purify the church; ask the Chinese!
They certainly have no ‘Laodicean’ corruption in their congregations.
These are the Holy Chinese Martyrs of the Boxer Rebellion who died for their Faith at the hands of the pagans.
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