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Vatican guilty of unholy compassion for paedophiles
the post.ie ^ | 20 December 2009 | Vincent Browne

Posted on 12/20/2009 3:22:36 PM PST by Alex Murphy

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To: Alex Murphy

Wow, another article about child molestation by Alex Murphy. I thought Coleus got banned for posting these about Protestants.


21 posted on 12/21/2009 3:15:30 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: magisterium
Got any of this stuff highlighting Protestant ministers?

There was a person named Coleus who was posting similar about Protestants, but for some reason the religion mederator decided that was unfair and banned him.

22 posted on 12/21/2009 3:20:25 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: Poe White Trash
As for there being an agenda beyond reporting news, how is that different from any other newspaper you've come across?

You miss the point. Are you really saying there's no difference between an article that appears in the National Review and one that appears in The Nation? Of course there is--each is driven by a different agenda, and it colors one's view of the material; that was no unbiased report. If you look at the other piece I excerpted, you can see the magazine's editorial bias. You may blithely accept anything someone publishes at face value just because "every" newspaper has an agenda, but you'd be a fool to do so.

That article wasn't satire. Please--show me the satirical part.

And it's obvious that Vincent Browne's op-ed isn't intended as fiction. BTW, I looked up "Vincent Browne" on the internet and he seems like an Irish journalist who doesn't have any particularly sinister connections (except perhaps for the fact that he's a barrister!).

Uh, I wasn't talking about Vincent Browne's op-ed. I was talking about the short story about the novelist getting a bad review. I'll copy the link for you, but it's, like, right there on the site.

(Of course, since that's fiction, and you claim the other is satire, maybe this article is meant to be "satire," too?)

You're spinning like a top, and it does you no credit. Why not just admit to the type of publication excerpted from? Because it would reveal you have an agenda, too, and the petulance over 'Catholics' posting things you don't like is obvious--you REALLY think that a single person on FR is unaware of the Catholics' priest pedophile problems, and you're simply trying to share more knowledge?

I don't have a dog in this fight, and it's obvious what's going on to me. There's not a thing wrong with your having your position, but please don't post something like this post I'm replying to again--I don't care if you think I'm an idiot, but please don't talk to me like you think I am, because I'll rip your obvious bunk apart every time, ok?

23 posted on 12/21/2009 5:10:15 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Merry Christmas-wishing atheist prolifer)
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To: Poe White Trash

P.S. Unintentionally may have implied you posted the article. All points stand, though, as you support its posting.


24 posted on 12/21/2009 5:11:34 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Merry Christmas-wishing atheist prolifer)
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To: MarkBsnr
It repeated the rule that any Catholic who failed for over a month to denounce a priest who had made such advances in connection with confession was automatically excommunicated and could be absolved only after actually denouncing the priest or at least promising seriously to do so

Thanks for the info, Mark. There's a whole lot of [excommmunicated] FReeper Catholics out there who'd rather denounce me than denounce their own priests, based on their own posting history.

25 posted on 12/21/2009 5:33:57 AM PST by Alex Murphy (qyot)
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To: Hacksaw
I thought Coleus got banned for posting these about Protestants.

Really?

Also, is Alex so insecure in his own beliefs that he must attack the Church? This obsession of his (posting Catholic articles, and posting threads about the sins of others) is deeply troubling. Maybe he should speak to his pastor about his need to attack Catholicism, and its implications for his own spirituality.

26 posted on 12/21/2009 6:13:28 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Hacksaw; magisterium; Coleus

Coleus hasn’t been banned, he’s still an active FReeper.


27 posted on 12/21/2009 6:17:30 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp; Hacksaw; Petronski

Very nearly all of the anti-Catholics are so insecure in their beliefs that they must attack the Church.

Calvinist predestination is nothing more than a cosmic lottery. Unfortunately, none of the participants in the lottery have any idea how many winners there will be and they are horrified that they will not be a winner. So, to convince themselves that they are a lottery winner, they set out to defame those who disavow such idolatry. I cannot imagine the daily dread they must endure.


28 posted on 12/21/2009 6:24:30 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Darkwolf377

Don’t forget that in Ireland hatred between Catholics and Protestants is near pathological. Granted it’s not as bad in the Republic of Ireland as it is in Northern Ireland, but it’s still bad.


29 posted on 12/21/2009 6:27:54 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Alex Murphy
There's a whole lot of FReeper Catholics out there who'd rather denounce me than denounce their own priests, based on their own posting history.

I've been personally involved in getting several ephebophile priests removed from my own diocese, and therefore feel qualified to denounce you, Alex.

Also, you fall right in with the homosexuals and liberals in continuing the slander against the Church that it has or had a pedophilia problem. It does not. It relaxed its prohibitions on admitting homosexuals to the priesthood, and a cohort of homosexuals have passed through its ranks over the past 4 decades, and the homosexuals did what homosexuals are wont to do.

So in Christian charity, I strongly suggest you cease this grave sin of detraction and slander, and stop implying the Church has a pedophile problem. It does not. It has a homosexual priest problem, and ephebophilia is endemic to the homosexual subculture.

30 posted on 12/21/2009 6:37:50 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: vladimir998
Oh, look another article about pedophilia posted by Alex. Imagine that.

It's a fetish.

31 posted on 12/21/2009 7:01:22 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: narses; Hacksaw
Oh, look another article about pedophilia posted by Alex. Imagine that.

That is the nature of a fetish.

32 posted on 12/21/2009 7:05:29 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Hacksaw; Religion Moderator
There was a person named Coleus who was posting similar about Protestants, but for some reason the religion mederator decided that was unfair and banned him.

Dear Religion Moderator,

Could you please clarify? Is it OK to post articles in the Religion Forum about the sexual proclivities of protestant ministers, or are such postings in the Religion Forum currently limited to articles about the sexual proclivities of Catholic priests?

Thanks in advance,

Dr. Kopp

33 posted on 12/21/2009 7:28:41 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Alex Murphy

I strongly suspect these posts were reactions to prior posts about RC priests, but I could be wrong.


35 posted on 12/21/2009 8:01:53 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Alex Murphy; Dr. Brian Kopp; TaxachusettsMan

Actually, Alex, I stopped, for the most part, posting the details of protestant pervert pastors (except for “big name” televangelists) in the religion forum (preferring to post them over to “general,” along with the exploits of miscellaneous psychologists, teachers, and pediatricians), but I can start again if you’d like.

By the way, what did “European paedophile trolls in Africa (child sex tourism in Mombasa Kenya)” have to do with Protestant ministers (unless you know of some who are engaging, of course)? Sure wasn’t mentioned in the article...


36 posted on 12/21/2009 8:03:49 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
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THE RULES

Rule One: 'Rome' is the locus of all evil in the universe.

Rule Two: In case of doubt, see Rule One.

All Else Is Irrelevant.

=========================================================== "The Rules" pretty well explain a huge 'genre' of posting on this forum.

Since I cannot read minds (only words), I cannot say for certain that any individual on this forum actually thinks according to "The Rules". However, a reasonable person, upon reading certain types of writing on this forum, would be led to suspect it.

37 posted on 12/21/2009 8:11:38 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Here's a simple direct question (and I honestly have not been following this tit-for-tat):

Was a Roman Catholic poster(s) requested by the Religion Moderator to stop posting articles about sexual abuse by Protestant ministers in the Religion Forum?

If so, would it not also be appropriate for Protestant posters to stop posting articles about sexual abuse by RC priests in the Religion Forum?

Maybe, as markomalley pointed out, you could post these articles in "General" or "News" or "Bloggers/Personal" instead of the Religion Forum.

38 posted on 12/21/2009 8:17:32 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: markomalley
By the way, what did “European paedophile trolls in Africa (child sex tourism in Mombasa Kenya)” have to do with Protestant ministers (unless you know of some who are engaging, of course)? Sure wasn’t mentioned in the article...

Oh, but it was. Presumably you didn't know of any priests who were involved? The last paragraph:

It is a thriving industry still in parts of South Asia, as well as Central America and those parts of Africa where tourists venture. It is also an international disgrace. The media, in particular, are hypocritical about it. A pastor or priest who abuses children is called a pedophile, molester, defiler or pervert; it makes front-page news and the media is after his blood until his church apologizes. A Briton, German or Italian is said to be “on a spree” or having a bit of “legitimate fun”: he or she is called a sex “tourist”. He’s not reported; no need to apologize either for a life ruined.

39 posted on 12/21/2009 8:20:21 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Iscool
Iscool said: It's not about school teachers...And it's not about priests...It's about the One True Church setting up a mechanism to protect child molestors from their victims as well as to protect them from the law...

But then you have to ask yourself why a religion would want this perverted, illegal activity within it's ranks protected...

Bingo with one comment. In your writing, the One True Church omits the quotation marks and you neglected to mention that school teachers and the protestant churches (except the cults) do not claim to be the "One True Church" nor do they claim infallibility and or apostolic succession.

40 posted on 12/21/2009 8:21:22 AM PST by fatboy
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