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A Message To Those Who Will Be/Are Left Behind - The Rapture of the Church
The Ignorant Fishermen Blog ^ | 8/13/09 | DJP I.F.

Posted on 10/07/2009 3:25:53 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman

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To: topcat54

Holy Spirit is fiercely protective of

HIS EXCLUSIVE TURF regarding each individual alive.

I learned that long ago.


201 posted on 10/09/2009 9:44:34 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54

I’ll wait on Him, thanks. (Smile)


202 posted on 10/09/2009 9:48:45 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: topcat54; Amityschild; Blogger; boatbums; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...
Oh . . .

and straightforward plain SCRIPTURE IS NOW = TO "HYPER-LITERALIZED."

Fascinating . . .

so . . . once something is REAL, how does it become HYPER REAL?

Perhaps REPLACEMENTARIANS et al

could educate us on the differences between

REAL and HYPER REAL

????????????????

Maybe HYPER REAL
for a generic
REPLACEMENTARIAN et al
EQUALS
the total absence
of rubber?


203 posted on 10/09/2009 9:49:44 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; Lee N. Field; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD; Alex Murphy
and straightforward plain SCRIPTURE IS NOW = TO "HYPER-LITERALIZED."

The way errant futurists treat the texts, yes. They have to ignore an entire book of the NT (and other portions) in order to support their contrived theory about the future millennial kingdom.

204 posted on 10/09/2009 10:00:49 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: Marysecretary
I’ll wait on Him, thanks. (Smile)

Tell Him I said "hello".

205 posted on 10/09/2009 10:01:32 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: topcat54

UNMITIGATED BALDERDASH!

WHAT A FARCE OF A NOTION!


206 posted on 10/09/2009 10:22:13 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; Lee N. Field
UNMIGITATED BARDELDASH.!
WHAT A FACE OF A NATION!

“I love it when you say that.”

Typical response of the uninformed.


207 posted on 10/09/2009 10:26:12 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: topcat54
OH REALLY?

HOW ODD!

REPLACEMENTARIANS ET AL

DO NOT SEEM TO BE ABLE TO

ROUTINELY

DISTINGUISH

BETWEEN

GNATS, WHOLE CAMELS,
SLUG SLIME AND BEEF.


208 posted on 10/09/2009 10:31:41 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54

I will, but you CAN tell Him yourself, you know...


209 posted on 10/09/2009 10:31:41 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Marysecretary

Are you expecting REPLACEMENTARIANS et al

to go beyond CREEDS and scripted prayers?

OH DEAR!

THEN

they’d have to IGNORE GOD

OR LISTEN!

EITHER ONE could have serious consequences!


210 posted on 10/09/2009 10:35:39 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Marysecretary
I will, but you CAN tell Him yourself, you know...

I know, and I have, but I figured since you were going to put in a good word for me, you might pass along my regards. We could call it a “Hail, Mary”! :-)

211 posted on 10/09/2009 10:36:21 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: topcat54

Great! . . . some humor.

Wasn’t sure REPLACEMENTARIANS had any.


212 posted on 10/09/2009 10:47:02 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54

OTAY, I’ll do it.


213 posted on 10/09/2009 10:54:51 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: topcat54; airborne; Amityschild; AngieGal; auggy; autumnraine; bearsgirl90; bethtopaz; ...
YET AGAIN
we have a rather clear
DISTINCTION
between
HERETICAL REPLACEMENTARIAN et al -ISM
vs
BIBLICAL DISPENSATIONALISM

REPLACEMENTARIANS et al
DISPENSATIONALISTS
Ezekiel 40:39; 42:13; 43:19
Ezekiel 40:39; 42:13; 43:19
EQUALS
EQUALS
RUBBERIZED,
CONVOLUTED,
FANTASIZED,
PSEUDO-'SPIRITUALIZED'
IRRATIONAL GOO,
LITERAL
BIBLICAL
DESCRIPTIVE
TRUTH
OF FUTURE
TANGIBLE
REALITIES!
MANGLE SCRIPTURE
TO IRRATIONAL OBLIVION
BECAUSE IT DOESN'T
FIT REPLACEMENTARIAN
BIASES AND DOCTRINES
DEMONS.
ACCEPT SCRIPTURE
AS GOD'S TRUTH
VAINLY, ARROGANTLY
DEMONICALLY, BLASPHEMOUSLY
TRY &
CONFORM SCRIPTURE
AND GOD
TO MAN'S IMAGE
ACCEPT THAT GOD IS GOD.
CONFORM MAN'S UNDERSTANDING
TO GOD'S WORD!
ACCEPT THAT GOD IS GOD
and always WILL BE GOD
whether our finite minds
always can manage to wrap
our biases around
HIS MYSTERIES
OR NOT!

214 posted on 10/09/2009 11:17:00 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: roamer_1
One should make one's case upon the Oracles of Almighty God and walk in HIS ways, filled with His Spirit, and immune from the sneers of those who scoff in pomp and piety while relying upon the works of mere men.

Extremely well put. Amen.

215 posted on 10/09/2009 11:28:30 AM PDT by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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To: boatbums; roamer_1

One should make one’s case upon the Oracles of Almighty God and walk in HIS ways, filled with His Spirit, and immune from the sneers of those who scoff in pomp and piety while relying upon the works of mere men.

Extremely well put. Amen.

INDEED! INDEED!


216 posted on 10/09/2009 12:01:12 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54
Creedless Christianity is the cause of much woe in the Church, from liberalism to fundamentalist/charismatic nonsense.

Amen!

It would be like organizing and maintaining the United States without a Constitution, which is just what liberals are trying to do.

217 posted on 10/09/2009 3:20:47 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

All the Pentecostal congregations I know of believe in the basic doctrines presented in the creeds. There may be a quibble about this or that one or two items of lesser importance depending on the creed.

And, Jesus Only groups would probably fuss about the Trinity.

Mostly, I think your assertion about Pentecostl and Charismatic groups is hogwash.


218 posted on 10/09/2009 3:33:21 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54; Lee N. Field; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD; Alex Murphy
Unless you are a “no creed but Christ” restorationist type [...]

I have no idea what you are talking about here, but it sounds pretty good...

[...] you will recognize that promise of the Holy Spirit includes God raising up faithful men to guard the faith once delivered.

How very Catholic. That is *not* the standard It is the Spirit who sanctions, wrt to churches, and wrt men. The gifts of the Spirit are evident in Churches where His Counselor is present... to include (*gasp*) tongues and prophesy! How vain to assume that words of men could stand before the Mighty Counselor! LOL! Straw before flame!

While we do not place these works on the same level as the Bible, we also recognize that it is human nature to interpret the Bible by our own imaginations and end up far from the truth (2 Peter 1:21).

But that is not true. If one in FACT holds the Bible to be preeminent, there is no argument at all for observing other than a Saturday Sabbath. It IS the Lord's Day. The New Testament says clearly that the love of God is keeping His commandments... ALL of them (and there ain't just 10).

As a Calvinist of many years, I can HAPPILY poke holes through Calvinist doctrines - rites of men, no different than the Catholics or any others who cling to the piety of mortals.

Testing what we think we read in the Bible by comparing that to what faithful believers down through the centuries have written is one way of deflecting error. It’s not perfect, but it works to a satisfactory degree.

TRADITIONS OF MEN.

For most fundamentalists of the futurist dispensationalist variety, church “history” only goes back to JN Darby and his band of merry men in the 1830. Everything before that, including the reformers like Calvin, where just untrustworthy and full of error in matter before the Church today, like eschatology.

This is why I posted a quote from Isaac Newton. His work was done in the late 1600's and resembles dispensationalism far more than it does the preterist view (though portions of both are supported). I am certain you would find him an interesting read - His predictions are amazing from the books of Daniel and the Revelation of John. While he is lauded for his work in science, he was far more extensively involved in Christian prophesy.

Of course, he too, inevitably, is wrong, as anyone who predicts the Word of God from a distance always is. But it seems he was more right than most.

[roamer_1:]When tradition trumps Word, it is confusion.

Hardly even suggested in my post.

I most strenuously disagree.

On the other hand, when folks act as if 2000 years of church history does not exist and the novel stuff they have “discovered” on their own or from some yokel with enough money to buy time of the local cable station must fit the bill, there is really a serious problem.

Not at all. It is when those in power through history, using that power to label dissenters heretic, and promote a single powerful voice in the Name of God, regardless of it's truth... That is the serious problem. That is the whore of Babylon.

Isaac Newton is a perfect example of "the heretic". The only reason he is preserved is that his dedication to science brought him fame, and he was wise enough to commit his writings to a later generation. How many others have been summarily destroyed, either in a very real sense, or by simple ridicule... similar to what is being shown by some right on this thread?

Creedless Christianity is the cause of much woe in the Church, from liberalism to fundamentalist/charismatic nonsense.

Utter pap. The baptism by fire is the truth. Having been indoctrinated in Reformed dogma, and having been raised therein, And having been freed from it by a powerful working of the Spirit, I bear witness to you.

219 posted on 10/09/2009 4:02:45 PM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: roamer_1; Lee N. Field; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD; Alex Murphy
How very Catholic.

Yes, but not Roman Catholic when properly understood.

Lone Ranger Christians are the ones most likely to get into trouble when it comes to sound doctrine, or lack thereof.

The Church (that is, the properly ordained officers of the Church) is the one to exercise the keys of the kingdom, binding and loosing according to the Word of God. If you come in to the congregation and declare some fantasy doctrine that you heard on Brother Yahoo’s old time revivalist freewill teetotaler radio program last night, quoting Scripture and all, the officers are free to toss you on your ear when it does not match the gold standard properly interpreted. Clearly, your interpretation is wrong, and God’s human ambassadors are right.

But that is not true.

Actually, it is. See the previous.

If one in FACT holds the Bible to be preeminent, there is no argument at all for observing other than a Saturday Sabbath.

That’s your opinion based on your personal interpretation of the Bible. Why should anyone believe it? Who are you?

As a Calvinist of many years, I can HAPPILY poke holes through Calvinist doctrines

See previous.

This is why I posted a quote from Isaac Newton. His work was done in the late 1600's and resembles dispensationalism far more than it does the preterist view

And who is Isaac Newtown and why should we listen to him. There were many noble scientists, politicians, etc who made terrible theologians.

Or, more likely, you are severely misreading Newton.

220 posted on 10/09/2009 4:25:47 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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