Posted on 06/29/2009 7:47:11 PM PDT by AuroraLeigh
AuroraLeigh you were a boring read.
Personal choice to kill a human being is a (morally excusable) "right?"
face it, if you're gay you're gay. It's not a medical condition or a choice, it is what it is (science has proven that there are homosexual animals).
LOL! Animals also have an estrus cycle (i.e. "being in heat") that's unknown in humans unless we try to imitate one. And praying mantises eat their mates...so let's see what parallel can we draw from that to excuse our behavior, hmmm? None!
Animals also have preferences. They are also taught and their behavior can be modified through conditioning. They choose, just as we do. Science did not prove that there is a "gay" gene. In fact, studies of homozygous twins has completely failed to show any genetic connection with "gayness," which means that it is learned and as such can be unlearned.
If nature or God or whatever you believe in, created genders so that species can procreate, what purpose do "gay" animals fulfill in the scheme of things?
Why would any human being be lustfully attracted to another human being of the same gender? But you say it's not a medical condition and it's not a choice! So,what is it!?!
Ditto.
This account has been banned or suspended.
Amen kosta50 and ZOt.:)
You voted for Obama, didn’t you?
My thoughts, too.
Hey, hey, hey AuroraLeigh, you're gay.
And it rhymes...
I think you are naive about gay parents, perhaps. See the article about the pervert at Duke U. (elsewhere in FR) who is being prosecuted for child abuse. I’m not saying they are all as bad as that guy, but there could well be far more of this than anybody is currently admitting.
Also, perhaps you do not yet have children of your own? I was pretty convinced that two good-hearted gays could parent a child, and I still think I have met some who are trying, but after having my own I would never say that is best for a child. There really are unique contributions that a mother and a father bring to the family, and it flies in the face of centuries of human experience to deny it. Part of what makes people grow up and face life as it really is involves trying to live with, and love, people of the opposite sex. People who can’t or won’t do that are giving their kids only part of what they need in life.
Moreover, I think there are some who just want to be nice. They can’t tell the nice gay couple that they can’t adopt. That would be mean. Better to shortchange the little kids than provoke an argument with the adults, I guess. The kids will go where they are sent, without complaint, either way.
Of course, as a feminist myself, I can tell you it angers me when people push kids around just because they are small and can’t fight back. That is the sort of “might makes right” mentality that I would never accept if a larger, stronger man were trying to impose his will on me. How many women would “choose” to abort if the child were as big as they are, and could argue back, and beg for their life? Nope, they go ahead with it because the child is tiny and can’t complain. It’s the same kind of oppression that big bullies have been doing forever. So, why would I accept it when grown-ups are trying to impose their purposely, deliberately, flawed family structure on helpless kids, who will never have even the possibility of both a mother and father if the adoption goes through?
Feminist, why are you sticking up for the would-be parents instead of the kids? Do you really want there to be justice for the small and weak among us? Or do you just want to be thought of as “nice” and “open-minded”?
Welcome to FR.
“The local fervor to prevent gays from adopting children also shows that the sexual abuse scandal did not distract the church from the rules it cares most about.
When mobilized against abortion and gay marriage, they are a potent political force.”
“....did not distract the church from the rules....”
The Church is not directed by the local cop or legislature. Rules can be made and remade, some are made to be broken.
Dogma is not “rules.” Dogma is Divinely given and inspired. It is not something that is simply legislated or decided by a people in a legislative capacity.
See, using the word, “rules,” gives one the impression that rules can be changed and they are simply whims created during a particular time, suiting a particular need or outlook, used in a particular sense.
The Church is not a “political force” in the sense that it influences “rules” or legislation. It is not enforcing rules, it is abiding by immutable laws written by God and written also in His creation through Natural Law which is observable.
We understand on FR the use of language and how the meanings are changed, albeit subtlety, to bolster an argument.
BUT if you are ever honestly interested in finding out what God (you know, the One who created you and sustains you even today) expects from you, instead of telling Him what you and your enlightend buddies think of His Law and His church, the Catholic Church (and many fine, orthodox Protestant Churches) stand ready to welcome you back.
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