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No Salvation Outside the Church
Catholic Answers ^ | 12/05 | Fr. Ray Ryland

Posted on 06/27/2009 10:33:55 PM PDT by bdeaner

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To: Markos33

Isn’t that something? No wonder these guys are confused.


1,041 posted on 06/30/2009 6:15:40 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: driftdiver

Here is a better one that should help you understand ,Dear Friend

That God understands all things at once and together By Saint Thomas Aquinas

THE reason why our understanding cannot understand many things together in one act is because in the act of understanding the mind becomes one with the object understood;* whence it follows that, were the mind to understand many things together in one act, it would be many things together, all of one genus, which is impossible. Intellectual impressions are all of one genus: they are of one type of being in the existence which they have in the mind, although the things of which they are impressions do not agree in one type of being: hence the contrariety of things outside the mind does not render the impressions of those things in the mind contrary to one another. And hence it is that when many things are taken together, being anyhow united, they are understood together. Thus a continuous whole is understood at once, not part by part; and a proposition is understood at once, not first the subject and then the predicate: because all the parts are known by one mental impression of the whole.* Hence we gather that whatever several objects are known by one mental presentation, can be understood together: but God knows all things by that one presentation of them, which is His essence; therefore He can understand all together and at once.

2. The faculty of knowledge does not know anything actually without some attention and advertence. Hence the phantasms, stored in the sensorium, are at times not actually in the imagination, because no attention is given to them. We do not discern together a multitude of things to which we do not attend together: but things that necessarily fall under one and the same advertence and attention, are necessarily understood together. Thus whoever institutes a comparison of two things, directs his attention to both and discerns both together. But all things that are in the divine knowledge must necessarily fall under one advertence; for God is attentive to behold His essence perfectly, which is to see it to the whole reach of its virtual content, which includes all things. God therefore, in beholding His essence, discerns at once all things that are.

6. Every mind that understands one thing after another, is sometimes potentially intelligent, sometimes actually so; for while it understands the first thing actually, it understands the second potentially. But the divine mind is never potentially intelligent, but always actually: it does not, then, understand things in succession, but all at once.

Holy Scripture witnesses to this truth, saying that with God there is no change nor shadow of vicissitude (James i, 17).


1,042 posted on 06/30/2009 6:15:48 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: bdeaner

I pray for you Catholics all the time since I fear your teachings on salvation will lead you to hell.


1,043 posted on 06/30/2009 6:18:56 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Markos33

Amen, Markos. ME, TOO.


1,044 posted on 06/30/2009 6:19:51 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: bdeaner

We protestants have had similar life changing experiences without taking the Eucharist. We confess our sins to our God through His Son, Jesus Christ. He fills us with His Holy Spirit and we are alive in Him. Don’t think Catholics are the only ones who have had these experiences. God is no respecter of persons. His universal catholic church is the entire body of believers. I hope one day you will see that. Blessings, Mary


1,045 posted on 06/30/2009 6:22:26 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: cva66snipe

Yes, dear cva. God’s grace is more than sufficient, isn’t it?


1,046 posted on 06/30/2009 6:25:36 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Iscool

Exactly. These folks like to parse words.


1,047 posted on 06/30/2009 6:26:34 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Iscool

Wasn’t Peter married?


1,048 posted on 06/30/2009 6:27:25 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: stfassisi

“He already KNOWS ALL THINGS”

Shouting doesn’t help.

yes God is all knowing and all powerful. I stated he used time so therefor he acknowledges time. He is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.


1,049 posted on 06/30/2009 6:27:56 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Markos33

AMEN, AMEN, AND AMEN!


1,050 posted on 06/30/2009 6:28:08 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: stfassisi

Quoting a ‘Saint’ does nothing to convince me. In my opinion they are nothing more than a good example of how we should try to be. God performs miracles, people don’t.


1,051 posted on 06/30/2009 6:29:31 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: papertyger

Petronski’s answer is even worse, LOL.


1,052 posted on 06/30/2009 6:35:03 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: bdeaner

Yes, the entire Body of Christ universal is His church. Hallelujah. ALL believers are His Church.


1,053 posted on 06/30/2009 6:38:47 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Iscool

LOL. GREAT.


1,054 posted on 06/30/2009 6:39:45 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Amen, Dr. E.


1,055 posted on 06/30/2009 6:49:09 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: driftdiver
You take yourself way toooo seriously. Nobody sits around thinking of ways to reject the catholic church.

Oh really? Watch the Protestant threads on FR. Catholics don't bother anybody on them. But watch the Catholic "open" threads -- they are attacked almost immediately by Protestants. Speaks volumes.

I would bet very big dollars that Catholic threads get at least 75% more negative remarks from Protestants than Protestant threads get negative remarks from Catholics. Wanna bet?
1,056 posted on 06/30/2009 6:53:46 PM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: driftdiver

Yep. That’s one of their tricks.


1,057 posted on 06/30/2009 6:54:24 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: bdeaner

Um, watch the Calvinist threads and watch the Catholics pounce on those. It’s a road that goes both ways and some of your posters get very nasty and personal with us.


1,058 posted on 06/30/2009 6:58:20 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: bdeaner

“I would bet very big dollars that Catholic threads get at least 75% more negative remarks from Protestants than Protestant threads get negative remarks from Catholics. Wanna bet?”

No, I don’t wanna bet. I don’t gamble as I believe its not something God wants us to do.

The road goes both ways. Saying ‘he did it first’ isn’t really a good argument.


1,059 posted on 06/30/2009 6:58:44 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Rome's error of mistaking the spiritual for the material.

The problem is not with the Catholic Church's infallible interpretation of Scripture. The problem seems to lie with your having fallen victim, at least in part, to the Manichean heresy. I've already addressed this in a former post with reference to Scripture.
1,060 posted on 06/30/2009 6:59:51 PM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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