Posted on 05/18/2009 2:36:12 AM PDT by markomalley
I don't think it can be on the "Temple Mount" at all. It has no water.
You said — I don’t think it can be on the “Temple Mount” at all. It has no water.
Well.., for there being no water there — there sure is a lot of talk about water there... LOL...
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Note what one rabbi says about the commandment to rebuild the Temple...
One of the most fundamental Jewish beliefs is that the Torah “is not in Heaven” (Deut. 30:11); the commandments were given to Israel to perform in this world. The movement to rebuild the Third Temple began almost 2,000 years ago, the moment the Second Temple was destroyed by Roman legionnaires in the year 70 CE. The Torah teaches that the Holy Temple is central to the life of man, and thus, we must not wait for directional signals or signs and wonders. The commandment to rebuild the Holy Temple is an integral portion of the Torah of Israel, and is not contingent upon Heavenly orchestration. Thus, regardless of whether or not water has begun to flow under the Temple Mount...we can and must seek to make the time of the Holy Temple a reality. We must not be satisfied with rumors; we must not be satisfied with the possibility of Divine intervention. We must seek to fulfill the Divine commandment to rebuild the Holy Temple to the best of our ability, here and now.
Rabbi Chaim Richman
[from http://www.lttn.org/99-07-07-email.html ]
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The Western Wall is Weeping
http://www.templemountfaithful.org/News/20020704.htm
1. A very old Jewish tradition holds that, close to Tisha B’Av, the Western Wall weeps and mourns the destruction of the Temple.
2. A stronger, godly, prophetic explanation is that the tears which are coming from the Western Wall are a sign of the close redemption of the people and land of Israel, the rebuilding of the Temple and the coming of Mashiach ben David.
The prophet Ezekiel prophesied about the water which would go out from the Temple Mount in the end-times which will be a sign of the redemption of the people and land of Israel.
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This is not the first time that water has come from the Temple Mount, the hill of G-d. In 1999 water flowed from the Temple Mount to the south. We reported on this water which came from the area of the location of the Temple. The Arabs on the Temple Mount did their best to stop the flow. As we were informed, when they could not stop the flow they redirected the water to another place. Also at that time the only real explanation was that it was the prophetic water of redemption. There is no doubt that the water that is now coming from the Western Wall is the same water of redemption. However, what is so unique and exciting this time, is that it is coming two weeks before Tisha B’Av — the day that G-d said would change from a day of mourning and fasting to a day of rejoicing. The prophetic tradition is that the Temples were destroyed on Tisha B’Av and will be rebuilt on Tisha B’Av.
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The water which is now coming from the Western Wall is not only a sign of the redemption of G-d’s people but, more than this, it is a message and even a call from G-d to Israel: “Awake! The time of your redemption has already come. Do not stand and worship on the outside of the Temple Mount near the Western Wall but go up to the Temple Mount and rebuild My house.” No doubt this is the reason why the water came so shortly before Tisha B’Av and to the Western Wall and not to the south as it was in 1999 and according to the prophecy of Ezekiel. The water that the Arabs tried to stop in 1999 cannot be stopped because it is the prophetic water of redemption.
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5. The lowest of two aqueducts reached the Temple Mount through the Jewish Quarter and the Wilson Bridge. According to the ancient authorities, the this aqueduct supplied water to the High Priests’ mikveh (ritual bath) located above the Water Gate, and it also supplied water for the rinsing of the blood off the Azarah. Solomon’s water system would supply this. We can see that there was significant potential water pressure with 21 meters of gross head at the highest point of the temple mount. The level at Solomon’s Pools near Bethlehem is 765 meters above sea level. The level at the top of the Rock under the Dome is 744 meters. We know Solomon used a sealed conduit system, so we know there was ample water pressure to supply lots of water to the temple mount based on the laws of physics including a friction loss calculation. Its really that simple. Imagine a water tower installed on the temple platform that is 21 meters (69 feet) in the air. This would give excellent water pressure. Could it be that the Dome of the Rock is Solomon’s old water tower rebuilt by the Muslims?...no!
6. “Living water” non biblical: The idea that the temple area must be washed with “Living water,” (from a spring) rather than from a cistern is not biblical. However later manmade traditions and rules were added to the law of Moses that were incorporated into temple worship. God doesn’t care if the water is from a spring or from pots carried on people’s heads. If He did care, God would have told us in the Bible and He didn’t! When Jesus was falsely accused of uncleanness by the Pharisees for eating with unwashed hands, Jesus condemned them: “The Pharisees and some of the scribes gathered around Him when they had come from Jerusalem, and had seen that some of His disciples were eating their bread with impure hands, that is, unwashed. (For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they carefully wash their hands, thus observing the traditions of the elders; and when they come from the market place, they do not eat unless they cleanse themselves; and there are many other things which they have received in order to observe, such as the washing of cups and pitchers and copper pots.) The Pharisees and the scribes asked Him, “Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat their bread with impure hands?” And He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far away from Me. ‘But in vain do they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’ “Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.” He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition.” (Mark 7:1-9) The “living water” rule is just another example of what Jesus was talking about. If God wanted the priests to only use “running spring water” at the temple, he would have told us this in the Bible.
[from http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-jerusalem-temple-mount-threshing-floor-aqueduct.htm ]
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A report debunking water on the Temple mount, but in the process of debunking it, they also end up mentioning that there is water on the Temple Mount... LOL...
http://christianactionforisrael.org/isreport/mayjun99/water.html
Fact #1. there are cisterns underneath the Temple Mount that contain “millions of gallons of water” (quoting a local archaeologist). These cisterns are well documented and show on all the really detailed maps of the Temple Site. They are not seeping or leaking in any way on the surface of the Temple Mount. And there is no unusual change in this water system that has existed since the days of Solomon’s temple.
Fact #2 that should not be confusing to anyone: There is the small spring deep in the Solomon’s Quarries (These quarries can be entered from under the north wall of the Old City just east of the Damascus gate.) This spring has flowed a very minimal amount of water for several hundred years and is called “The Tears of Hezekiah”. It is a rarely visited site, well off the beaten path for tourists and there is nothing to see. It is far to the north of the Temple Mount and certainly cannot fit the description of Ezekiel 47:1-3, or any other prophecy that we are familiar with. There is no activity of increased water flow from this small spring.
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An interesting comment on the wet stone from a rabbi...
http://ohr.edu/ask_db/ask_main.php/240/Q4/
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On the locations of the first and second Temples...
http://www.templemount.org/theories.html
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The Temple Mount Archaeological Destruction
http://www.har-habayt.org/
and a nice map of the area...
http://www.har-habayt.org/templemountm.jpg
[you can see the Golden Gate for positioning the northern possible site...]
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The Temple Mount Center
http://www.hamikdash.com/Introenglish.htm
Mercaz Har HaBayith - Temple Mount Center
http://www.hamikdash.com/Mercaz_Activities.html
Aliya to Har HaBayit - A Visit Inside the Temple Mount
http://www.hamikdash.com/AliyaIntroenglish.htm
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The Temple Institute
http://www.templeinstitute.org/
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Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement
http://www.templemountfaithful.org/
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Can’t really say anything about this information but it’s just presented as being “out there”
http://www.askelm.com/temple/index.asp
An interesting pictorial map of the southern site of the Temple
http://www.askelm.com/tdetail.htm
[of course, of the three possible sites, the southern and the northern sites do not require the removal of the Islamic Dome of the Rock]
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Some more information (a bunch of links to sites) in Post #22...
INTERESTING.
THANKS.
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