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Former Protestant Minister Pursues Priesthood
Catholic Anchor, Newspaper of the Archdiocese of Anchorage ^ | October 17, 2008 | James DeCrane, Anchor Writer

Posted on 03/22/2009 5:16:39 PM PDT by Titanites

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Protestants baaaaaaad

Catholics gooooood

41 posted on 03/23/2009 8:18:50 AM PDT by lonestar (Obama has turned a crisis into a catastrophe.)
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To: Iscool
How’s Jesus going to continue to die for all the Catholics if He’s not on the Cross???

Jesus does not continue to die for all Catholics. That is a bold and brazen misstatement of Catholic teaching.

42 posted on 03/23/2009 8:19:19 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski

Romans 5:

1(A) Therefore, since we have been justified by faith,(B) we[a] have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. 2Through him we have also(C) obtained access by faith[b] into this grace(D) in which we stand, and(E) we[c] rejoice[d] in hope of the glory of God. 3More than that, we(F) rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering(G) produces endurance, 4and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, 5and(H) hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love(I) has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.

6For(J) while we were still weak, at the right time(K) Christ died for the ungodly. 7For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die— 8but(L) God shows his love for us in that(M) while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9Since, therefore,(N) we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from(O) the wrath of God. 10For if(P) while we were enemies(Q) we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by(R) his life. 11More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received(S) reconciliation.
Death in Adam, Life in Christ

12Therefore, just as(T) sin came into the world through one man, and(U) death through sin, and(V) so death spread to all men because(W) all sinned— 13for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but(X) sin is not counted where there is no law. 14Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not(Y) like the transgression of Adam,(Z) who was a type of(AA) the one who was to come.

15But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man’s trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for(AB) many. 16And the free gift is not like the result of that one man’s sin. For(AC) the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought(AD) justification. 17For if, because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness(AE) reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.

18Therefore, as one trespass[e] led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness[f] leads to justification and life for(AF) all men. 19For as by the one man’s(AG) disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s(AH) obedience the many will be made righteous. 20Now(AI) the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased,(AJ) grace abounded all the more, 21so that,(AK) as sin reigned in death,(AL) grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.


43 posted on 03/23/2009 8:21:18 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear. -Mark Twain)
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To: Iscool

One reason why the Orthodox Christian Church depicts the cross without Christ upon it is because the cross, an instrument of death, could not hold Him.


44 posted on 03/23/2009 8:22:19 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: WVKayaker
Very nice. Sola fide is a false tradition of men.
45 posted on 03/23/2009 8:23:38 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: WVKayaker
He is risen. Take Him down from the altar.

But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews indeed a stumblingblock, and unto the Gentiles foolishness: 1Cor 1:23

46 posted on 03/23/2009 8:31:05 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski; Iscool
More like a graven image, than a brazen misstatement...


47 posted on 03/23/2009 8:32:33 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear. -Mark Twain)
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To: WVKayaker

The crucifix? A graven image?

It is by His crucifixion that we are saved. Why the urgency to forget this?


48 posted on 03/23/2009 8:33:44 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: lonestar
Protestants baaaaaaad Catholics gooooood

True (if referring to Protestantism and Catholicism and not individuals), but the reason for posting the article was for the interest amongst Catholics about married priests, not for flaming.

49 posted on 03/23/2009 8:40:15 AM PDT by Titanites
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To: Petronski
It is by His crucifixion that we are saved.

No, I tend to disagree. I believe a very different line of thought, based in Scripture.

We are saved through belief in His sacrifice, not His death. His resurrection signaled the end of the reign of sin in our lives. We are no longer under judgment. Show me Scripture to dispute that, not your organizations teachings.

Death could not hold Him. He is risen.


50 posted on 03/23/2009 8:42:16 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear. -Mark Twain)
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To: Man50D

They are too busy protesting in the streets and calling Mormons murderers.


51 posted on 03/23/2009 8:43:15 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Blessed be the Peacemaker.)
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To: Petronski
Me: Is there a record of a testimony anywhere where he accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as his Savior?

You: Sola fide is a false tradition of men.

So you are saying that asking the Lord to be your Savior is a false tradition of men???...

Are you saying Catholics don't need to mess with that stuff???

52 posted on 03/23/2009 8:52:09 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Petronski
Jesus does not continue to die for all Catholics. That is a bold and brazen misstatement of Catholic teaching.

C'mon Petronski...Everytime we say you guys sacrifice Jesus Christ anew, you claim it's one, ongoing sacrifice...So now, what is it???

53 posted on 03/23/2009 8:54:41 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
So you are saying that asking the Lord to be your Savior is a false tradition of men???

No of course not. Presuming you are saved solely because you have done so is a false tradition of men.

54 posted on 03/23/2009 8:56:35 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: FormerLib
One reason why the Orthodox Christian Church depicts the cross without Christ upon it is because the cross, an instrument of death, could not hold Him.

Makes sense to me...

55 posted on 03/23/2009 8:57:15 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
Everytime we say you guys sacrifice Jesus Christ anew, you claim it's one, ongoing sacrifice...

Eh?

Christ is not sacrificed anew at each Mass. Repeating such false claims after having been corrected is an especially malignant behavior.

56 posted on 03/23/2009 8:58:19 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: WVKayaker
Show me Scripture to dispute that, not your organizations teachings.

My organization?

57 posted on 03/23/2009 8:59:47 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Iscool

His Book “The Catholic Church” tells you his relationship to The Christ. Faith and Reason go to together. Faith without reason is what the pagans practiced as do modern day Hindus.

And reason without faith confines our limitation to our senses where we remain bound to the temporal in which Divine miracles are relegated to superstition because they don’t comport with scientific reason.

Newman’s reasons that support faith is simply brilliant.


58 posted on 03/23/2009 9:02:07 AM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Petronski
My organization?

Indeed...

Lots of organization!

59 posted on 03/23/2009 9:05:58 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear. -Mark Twain)
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To: Petronski
No of course not. Presuming you are saved solely because you have done so is a false tradition of men.

you're the only one saying that...Turn your eyes upon Jesus...Turn to Jesus, with your heart and your mind...Confess Him as THE Lord...Acknowledge you are a sinner and need to be saved...Call upon HIM to save you...That's the way to salvation...

Have you done that???

60 posted on 03/23/2009 9:06:13 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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