The Vatican levies further penalties on Roger Haight, SJ (+ Update)

Commonweal ^ | January 2, 2009 | David Gibson

[NYer]

Haight update: Vatican action "not definitive"

Monday January 5, 2009

Categories: Catholic, Church , History, Pop Culture, Pope

According to a Jesuit spokesman in Rome, via this CNS story, the action against Fr. Roger Haight reported below is "a suspension" rather than a final punishment. The process is ongoing, as a committee of three (unnamed) U.S. Jesuit theologians study Haight's work, with Haight's cooperation, the article says:

"He can continue to teach, but not systematic theology connected with Christology," said Father Giuseppe Bellucci, spokesman for the Jesuits.

"The prohibition against teaching is not a condemnation and is not definitive; a committee of Jesuits, in fact, is studying the position of Father Roger, who is willing to collaborate to clarify his positions," Father Bellucci told Catholic News Service Jan. 5.

In 2005 the doctrinal congregation published a notification that Father Haight could no longer teach as a Catholic theologian because of "serious doctrinal errors" in his 1999 book, "Jesus Symbol of God."

While discussions with his Jesuit superiors and between the Jesuits and the doctrinal congregation continued, Father Haight has been teaching at Union Theological Seminary, a nondenominational graduate school in New York.

Several news agencies reported in December that last summer the doctrinal congregation barred Father Haight from theological writing and from teaching anywhere, but Father Bellucci said the reports were inaccurate.

The spokesman described the Vatican action as "a suspension" and added, "Father Haight is an excellent Jesuit and neither he nor anyone else is involved in a fight. The desire is simply to clarify his position."

I'm not sure what the status of Haight's teaching faculties is. My understanding is that he still must leave Union, even though I believe the bulk of his teaching was not related to systematic theology.

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[17th Miss Regt]

Would this be classified as a Haight crime?

[PetroniusMaximus]

I Haight it when that happens!

[Stourme]

Would this be classified as a Haight crime?

That joke was so bad...

[brooklyn dave]

Will the purge of hereticl Jesuits continue? I am currently reading a rather dated book by Malachi Martin called Jesuits. Even though it was written in 1987 it still rings true today. I am very familiar with a bunch of lay Catholic folks who embrace pretty much everything the modern Jesuits stand for. I remember when Jesuits priests (mostly from Spain in believe) and American Maryknoll nuns were killed by the anti-Marxist in El Salvador. My lefty Catholic friends still haven’t gotten over it. I didn’t know many of the facts back then but did know that Jesuits and Maryknoll were pretty much all about Liberation Theology and in the bosoms of the Sandinistas and FMLN movements. Although their deaths were horrible, and I would never advocate the deaths of clergy even if they were Marxists, they somehow made their beds by so overtly getting involved in the politcal battles of these nations. Now, such the Church be totally mute on injustice, I think not. But Liberation Theology is not the route that Catholic clergy should be taking. The clergy were part and parcel of these leftist movements, not just speaking out against injustice in the name of the Catholic church.
In the First World Jesuits are also far from domagtically orthodox. Now I understand how smart guys like those in the Society of Jesus might be tempted to do all sorts of theological gymnastics with the nature of Christ etc.—but because they are not merely professors of theology or merely doctors of divinity, but ordained members of a society whose essence is to defend the vatican and its dogmas, such temptations should be put on the back burner and left to other who are not encumbered with the duty of supposedly being defenders of the faith. Leave all these things to lay theologians is they so choose to engage in them.

[Cvengr]

I met a German Jew last Oktoberfest. He surprised me when we sat down at the tables and he gestured for me to pass several mugs of thi really fabulous 2 month old ale and kept clamouring “August Stein!, August Stein!”

I figure him for a Trentine Catholic...;^)

[COBOL2Java]

I know the Vatican often punishes Jesuits because they can—because the Jesuits have a particular relationship to the pope (which has been harshly reiterated in recent decades) that enables the pontiff to enforce orders that might be ignored eslewhere.

IIRC, the Jesuits take a 4th vow besides the Evangelical Counsels, that of Obedience to the Pope.

[annalex]

this kind of Vatican action, which has become the norm over the past 30 years under John Paul II and Cardinal Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict

Not norm enough.

[ZULU]

Not norm enough.

Right.

[icwhatudo]

Seriously. I wish the author’s words were true that the Church was quick to act and draconian in its punishments.

Reading this reminds me of MSM stories about how the GOP is just too conservative...lol

[dangus]

A German Jew chanting “August Stein”?

This guy August must’ve been related to Edith.

[dangus]

>> Reading this reminds me of MSM stories about how the GOP is just too conservative...lol <<

You mean how the Pope is too Catholic?

[kosta50]

“August Stein!, August Stein!”

That's Augustine!...from the song that originated in Vienna during the 1768 plague entitled "Ach Du lieber Augustin" (O dear Augustine)

Here is the whole song:

"Ach, du lieber Augustin, Augustin, Augustin, ach, du lieber Augustin, alles ist hin! Geld ist hin, Mädl ist hin, alles ist hin, Augustin! Ach, du lieber Augustin, alles ist hin! Rock ist weg, Stock ist weg, Augustin liegt im Dreck. Ach, du lieber Augustin, alles ist hin! Und selbst das reiche Wien, hin ist's wie Augustin; weint mit mir im gleichen Sinn, alles ist hin! Jeder Tag war ein Fest, jetzt haben wir die Pest! Nur ein großes Leichenfest, das ist der Rest. Augustin, Augustin, leg' nur ins Grab dich hin! Ach, du lieber Augustin, alles ist hin!"

[AnAmericanMother]

Nur ein großes Leichenfest, das ist der Rest.

Sheesh, what a downer! Ach Du Emo Augustin! < g >

[AnAmericanMother]

What else did we expect?

And asking Commonweal what they think of orthodox Catholics is kinda like asking rats what they think of strychnine.

[AnAmericanMother]

Try that again:

Haight crime, indeed.

Or, Birds of a Feather.

[kosta50]

This is old news NYer. In 2004, the Vatican issued a similar censure. This Jesuit priest is an open Arian heretic (judging from his book Jesus: Symbol of God), specifically he denies the pre-existence of the Word and calls it meaphorifcal (p. 177), that "Jesus of Nazareth is the concrete symbol expressing the presence in history of God as Logos" (p. 439).

He defines Jesus' divinity at odds with the established dogma, stating that, to the effect the man Jesus, mediates the saving presence of God in history, or words tot hat effect. He calls Logos and Spirit "symbols" of divinity and thus disturbs the Trinitarian dogma completely, and argues that orthodox Trinitarian dogma is contrary to the principal doctrine "that God is single and one" (p. 482).

He also redefines the resurrection, arguing that "what God begins in love, because of the complete boundlessness of that love, continues to exist in that love, thus overcoming the power and finality of death" (p. 147) In other words as an idea.

Consequently, a notice was published under John Paul II's name that states: "Congregation for the Doctrine, of the Faith is obliged to declare that the above-mentioned assertions contained in the book Jesus Symbol of God by Father Roger Haight, S.J., are judged to be serious doctrinal errors contrary to the divine and catholic faith of the Church."

It was signed by Joseph Card. Ratzinger, Prefect, on "13 December 2004, the Memorial of Saint Lucy, Virgin and Martyr."

[kosta50]

Sheesh, what a downer! Ach Du Emo Augustin!

Yeah, funeral fest...He got drunk, passed out and was mistaken to be a body (people were dying from the plague), and thrown on the cart with other bodies and woke up in the morgue! Or so the story goes...why would the Germans pick this as their Oktoberfest theme song is beyond me.

But it's not August Stein...for sure. Any any Jew would know that...

[AnAmericanMother]

"'Ere. He says he's not dead!"