Posted on 11/11/2008 2:19:09 PM PST by WhatNot
I commend you on your balanced tone. I would like to point out however that Rome was not the last vestige of the Roman Empire but rather Byzantium. That would put the center of a new ten toed kingdom in Turkey. Just where the Selucid Empire existed before. AND interestingly enough there is a people group there: The Kurds. A new nation is soon to be born and a leader shall arise. Then ten kings will join him. And they will destroy the greatest city of all time “in one hour’.
Obama looks like the False Prophet to me. Dead Ringer.
http://www.biblestudying.net/index.html
And just an aside: There is no ‘rapture’. There IS a resurrection.
http://www.answersinrevelation.org/
Outdated and disproved scholarship. See my post above and check out the link. Believe me its worth it.
Thanks for the links, but can you explain how Byzantium being the last vestige of the Roman Empire, negates Rome itself from being revived?
Killing God’s innocent children put Israel under a curse, remember? Now we’re under the same curse. Read Ezekiel 5.
Of all the great kingdoms or peoples in Daniel’s vision all were swept away by history itself. Not the sword. Only one, the next to last, can qualify for being wounded unto death by the sword. That is the final Roman Empire which was seated in Byzantium. It is this kingdom that will make a come-back. It is not the antichrist that is wounded by a sword. No man is wounded. Look at the symbolism. Carefully.
Here is a link from within the first link I gave you. You will see symbolism at the top of the page. Start there and work your way through the study of Revelations. You will clearly see that Dallas Theological Cemetery got it very wrong. Provably wrong and that Hal and his friends have been spreading half baked misinterpretations all these years. Only the Bible can interpret the Bible. A symbol can have only one true meaning not switch back and forth between differing meanings.
http://www.biblestudying.net/studies.html#endtimes
These are military campaigns.
As far as Antichrist being wounded, one of his heads may stand for a specific ruler or it may stand for an empire.
However the events unfold, the unbelieveing world is enticed (Rev 12:9)by Satan to follow and worship the beast.
Those who worship the beast also unwittingly worship the devil, who gave authority to the beast. The Antichrist will likely be Jewish because the Jews will not receive a Gentile as their promised Messiah.
Jesus predicted that Israel will someday foolishly receive the Antichrist as their saviour.
"I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive"(John 5:43).
The Bible does hint that the Antichrist might have a Jewish background.
In Dan 11:37 it says "Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers." Although the verse could mean any deity, the wording strongly matches Jewish heritage of faith in God.
This is cheating but if it wets your whistle enough to go back and read the whole thing my work is done.
From that link:
From “Prophetic Symbols: Revelation 13 (part 3)
1. A series of unfolding historic empires can be represented collectively using a single, symbolic entity (such as the statue of Daniel 2 or the seven-headed beast of Revelation 13.)
2. The phrases “out of the earth” and “out of the sea” are used interchangeably by Daniel and, therefore, no great significance should be attached in the effort to distinguish between them.
3. Daniel 2, 7, and 8 as well as Revelation 13 all depict the same succession of empires starting with Babylon, then Media-Persia, then Greece, then Rome (along with another nation represented by the clay), and finally the coming of the kingdom of God, when the saints possess the kingdom.
4. While Daniel 7 depicts the kingdoms of gold, silver, brass, and iron from Daniel 2 as four beasts but does not depict a beast representing the kingdom of clay, Revelation 13:11 finally depicts a beast, which corresponds to the kingdom of clay.
5. Something of the Roman kingdom exists in two time periods, the time period of the legs before the clay is introduced into the statue and in the time of the feet and toes after the clay is introduced into the statue. Likewise, Revelation 13 depicts the restoration of a former head that was defeated by war to exist side by side with a second beast. This coexistence of a former empire with a new empire is identical to the coexistence of the iron and the clay in the feet of Daniel 2’s statue.
6. Beasts represent two items, both kings and their kingdoms.
7. Although the second beast of Revelation 13 does represent the single human figure known as the False Prophet, because the biblical precedent for the symbol of a beast never depicts just a king or ruler but the king and the kingdom he rules, we must understand from the second beast of Revelation 13 that the False Prophet is himself a ruler over a kingdom or empire in the same way that the kings of Daniel 7 and 8 were rulers over actual geo-political kingdoms.
8. Horns also represent kings and, unless specified by the text, horns represent contemporary kings, not a succession or line of kings.
9. Although horns represent kingdoms that arise out of an empire that precedes them, the kingdoms represented by those horns do NOT have to be situated geographically in the same region as the preceding empire. The kingdoms represented by the horns can migrate significantly away from the geographic location of their imperial predecessor.
10. A beast with multiple heads represents an overarching political entity and the political powers that come from it, as was the case with the four-headed leopard of Greece and the seven-headed first beast of Revelation 13.
11. Angelic princes rule over the kingdoms of men, and specifically over the empires described in Daniel 2, 7, and 8.
12. The “prince of the people” who “destroyed the city and the sanctuary” is NOT the Antichrist, but the angelic prince who ruled over the Roman Empire.
13. Putting all of this together we can see that Daniel’s writings recorded and anticipated a succession of the following empires: Babylon, Media-Persia, Greece, Rome, another yet unknown represented by the clay and the second beast of Revelation 13, and finally a Jewish empire or kingdom ruled over by Jesus Christ the Jewish Messiah, the Prince of princes.
Specific rulers are horns.
Our country may not abandon Israel, but our government under the Marxist in Chief might. There’s a difference between country and government.
Not only will we abandon Israel but we will join with those who attempt to destroy her. I can’t say for sure but it begins to look more and more as though we are the kingdom of clay poorly mixed with the iron in the toes of Daniel’s image. The kingdom of the False Prophet.
May the Lord richly bless you and yours,
Thank you and back at ya.
You don’t have to go looking for them. God will send them right to you. They will be found camping on your doorstep although not very often and not in great numbers in these days.
Amen
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