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What Happened to the Catholic Vote?
ZENIT.org ^ | NOV. 6, 2008 | Karna Swanson

Posted on 11/06/2008 8:43:41 PM PST by Alex Murphy

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To: Trailerpark Badass
And what were the percentages among Evangelicals? I cannot find the statistics, but I would guess that it will be higher than 55%.

So?

The conclusion is that a greater percentage of Evangelicals voted Republican and a greater percentage of Catholics voted Democrat. That is the way both groups usually vote.

61 posted on 11/06/2008 11:05:55 PM PST by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: Earthdweller
It was high, but to be fair Palin was on the ticket. I know a lot of Protestants who are PINOs who voted for marxist slavery and the destruction of all religion.

Well, to be doubly fair, I guess we should point out that Joe Bidne was on the Democrat ticket. He is a pro-abortion Catholic, and I suppose that drew a lot of Catholics to vote for him.

62 posted on 11/06/2008 11:08:23 PM PST by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: Alex Murphy
65% McCain, xx% Obama - Weekly church-attending Protestants

55% McCain, 43% Obama - Weekly mass-attending Catholics

Wow. 350 out of 1000 "weekly church-attending" Protestants voted for a candidate that supports murder. Oh those Protestants are so holy...

Look to the beam in your own eye first, my friend.

Regards

63 posted on 11/07/2008 4:36:33 AM PST by jo kus (You can't lose your faith? What about Luke 8:13...? God says you can...)
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To: Old Sarge

“They voted as their union shop stweards told them to vote. Politics and paychecks trumps religion every time”.


But not with everyone Sarge!!

Give me twenty!!!LOL!!!


64 posted on 11/07/2008 6:28:39 AM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: Alex Murphy

Lawmakers who vote in favor of abortion in Uruguay incur excommunication http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=14238

If our Bishops would do that, it would make a dent in the anti-life movement in this country.


65 posted on 11/07/2008 6:36:04 AM PST by amihow
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To: phoenix07
he doesn’t know squat about the economy and if he follows the policies he says he’s going to follow, we’re going to be in double-digit inflation, double-digit interest rates, possibly double digit unemployment, and on and on, in four years from now.

I believe you to be correct. But I will also hold Bush/ Paulson/ Bernanke accountable for their policies too.

66 posted on 11/07/2008 6:41:54 AM PST by Abe XVI
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To: stripes1776
The conclusion is that a greater percentage of Evangelicals voted Republican and a greater percentage of Catholics voted Democrat.

Your use of the comparative is confusing, but, regardless, I fail to see the point of this, other than idle curiousity.

67 posted on 11/07/2008 9:31:02 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Your use of the comparative is confusing, but, regardless, I fail to see the point of this, other than idle curiousity.

Well, if my language is confusing to you, I will try be crystal clear. A majority of Catholics voted for the Democrat presidential ticket that supports abortion. A majority of Evangelicals voted for the Republican presidential ticket that opposes abortion. So now I have made a comparison, but I did not use the comparative form of an adjective.

I hope that is clearer to you. If you still find this confusing, perhaps you could clarify.

68 posted on 11/07/2008 10:26:41 AM PST by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Here is a thread at FreeRepublic that may help to clarify your confusion: Loyal to the End: Evangelicals Stay the Course.

This is what post #2 by Elvina says:

I am very impressed with the evangelical vote. This is a very good sign and hope for the unborn. I wish my fellow Catholics had such an impressive showing.
It seems to me that Elvina is a Catholic with no confusin, a Catholic who sees and understands with clarity.
69 posted on 11/07/2008 11:21:01 AM PST by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: stripes1776
It seems to me that Elvina is a Catholic with no confusin, a Catholic who sees and understands with clarity.

I'm sorry; I am still confused as to what I should understand. I am a Catholic who ALWAYS votes pro-life. I have no control what some people who call themselves Catholic do, nor does it concern me greatly. I don't believe ANYONE should vote pro-choice, atheists included.

I simply don't understand what you're doing, other than trying to scramble for some moral high ground based on the actions of others who share your name, not your own.

Sounds pretty pointless to me.

70 posted on 11/07/2008 11:37:44 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
I'm sorry; I am still confused as to what I should understand.

A simple fact. The majority of Catholics voted Democrat. The majority of Evangelicals voted Republican. Is that so difficult to acknowledge?

I simply don't understand what you're doing

I am stating facts. Are you denying that the majority of Catholics voted Democrat and the majority of Evangelicals voted Republican?

71 posted on 11/07/2008 11:52:55 AM PST by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: Alex Murphy; NYer
It is simple.
After decades of liberal theology, liberation theology, and preaching redistribution of wealth, the average wishy washy Christmas Bunny Catholic (or Protestant) voted for the one that most matched what they have been taught.

And the pro life message has been watered down in all our churches because it offends to many with money. I have seen it happen. Most pastors/priests will not offend big donors, no matter what the reason.

72 posted on 11/07/2008 4:05:42 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: amihow
And you will likely never see that here. To much property and money at risk.

My old Lutheran pastor in Lincoln one time was warned to keep quiet because “We might loose our tax exemption”.

He said “So?”Most pastor/priests will not do that.

73 posted on 11/07/2008 4:10:46 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

It is time to fight the tax exempt status rule. It is an IRS thing anyway and who says that Church’s can’t have a say in not only issues, but also candidates?


74 posted on 11/07/2008 6:43:20 PM PST by amihow
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To: RobbyS

To be fair, the cause of the crash actually started back in the Clinton adminstration with the heavy expansion of the Community Reinvestment Act coupled with the repeal of the Glass Steigal act. And Greenspan.


75 posted on 11/07/2008 8:57:41 PM PST by phoenix07
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To: Abe XVI

It wasn’t Bernanke. But it IS fair to point to Greenspan. And it wasn’t alot to do with Bush. It goes back more to the Clinton administration and their bigtime expansion of the Community Reinvestment Act - causing subprime mortgages, and the repeal of Glass-Steigal, allowing banks to not keep much in reserve. That’s why credit got so loose. Paulson is terrible and should step down. The Bush Admin. is a lot less to blame for this particular mess than most people realize - and Clinton, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Alan Greenspan are a lot MORE culpable than most people realize.


76 posted on 11/07/2008 9:01:11 PM PST by phoenix07
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To: phoenix07

Well, Greenspan dropped the ball, which is why he was confessing his sins before Congress. He knows his reputation is on the line—mabe I should say his social standing—which is why he doesn’y tell the truth about the matter.
He does not dare confront those who are about to take over the government and the country. What would his wife say?


77 posted on 11/07/2008 9:40:02 PM PST by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: RobbyS

Believe it or not - Greenie is a Dem....


78 posted on 11/09/2008 10:24:40 AM PST by phoenix07
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To: Earthdweller

The social engineering by itsself could not have produced this mess. What it did was to open the dorr to middle-class people leveraging to buy several houses, flipping them to make a killing. So we have a long line of people with more houses that they can’t pay for. But the social engineer was stupid. Like selling a car to a sixteen year oldfor no money down when he barely had money for the payments, much less insurance, gas and maintenance.


79 posted on 11/09/2008 7:34:34 PM PST by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: Patriotic1

In a way it is the fault of the pre-Vatican II clergy. They didn’t teach Catholics how to confront opposite points of view, but just to obey Father/Sister. And Father and Sister were the same way. Once the changes came down the pike, they still went along for the ride, just in a new car. Like “Thoroughly Modern Millie” they went from straight to hip. Their new liberalism was just as blind as their former orthodoxy.


80 posted on 11/09/2008 7:40:59 PM PST by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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