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Pope reaffirms Church opposition to contraception
afp.google.com ^ | 10/3/08 | AFP

Posted on 10/03/2008 8:05:10 AM PDT by Publius804

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To: HappyinAZ
This whole concept originated as a way to insure a base of Catholics for tithing

Christian and Jewish tradition always frowned on artificial birth control. Protestants uniformly condemned it until the Lambeth Conference of 1930, which was the breach in the wall.

21 posted on 10/03/2008 12:29:22 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Campion

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal. Reading the mind of another poster is a form of “making it personal.”


22 posted on 10/03/2008 1:46:48 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: HappyinAZ
This is where the contraceptive society leads.
23 posted on 10/03/2008 2:30:44 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Publius804; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
a position that has driven millions of people away from the faith.

Millions?!! Where did they round up those statistics?

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24 posted on 10/03/2008 2:57:59 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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They counted the Boston phone book?


26 posted on 10/03/2008 3:01:02 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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“Protestants uniformly condemned it until the Lambeth Conference of 1930, which was the breach in the wall.”

and a good “breach” it was......NO other religion preaches this....The incredibley poor should be able to use birth control without fear of eternal damnation.

Pretty hard to justify the “no birth-control” position when it adds to exisitng missery in poor countries..


27 posted on 10/03/2008 3:02:58 PM PDT by HappyinAZ
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To: HappyinAZ; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
This whole concept originated as a way to insure a base of Catholics for tithing..... The last thing the desperately poor around the world need...is this. Case in point for why other religions are taking hold in the most poor places. Don't bother to Flame away..(I'm turning off my mail)...but DARE to think about it....
Hmmmm, another one who doesn't get it.
28 posted on 10/03/2008 3:03:12 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: HappyinAZ; maryz

Do tell, what religion do you claim as your own?


29 posted on 10/03/2008 3:04:09 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Publius804

Pro-Life bumpus ad summum


31 posted on 10/03/2008 3:07:02 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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To: HappyinAZ; Religion Moderator
You guys are SO naive! DARE to think a little more...for yourself....

RM alerted without comment.

32 posted on 10/03/2008 3:08:41 PM PDT by Campion
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Nope...more concern for the millions of abject poor that are deprived of birth-contol methods and watch their children hunt for garbage to eat...take a nice visit to the poor of Mexico City..the Church can stop some of it and won’t. I’m passionate...you (and many others) just take the easy road and blindly follow without thought.


33 posted on 10/03/2008 3:08:42 PM PDT by HappyinAZ
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NO other religion preaches this....

What, you mean besides Judaism and Christianity? And, come to think of it, Islam? Though Islam is more widely observant of the prohibition, which is why they look likely to win -- see Europe. And read Mark Steyn.

34 posted on 10/03/2008 3:11:30 PM PDT by maryz
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To: HappyinAZ
DARE to think a little more...for yourself....

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal. Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."
35 posted on 10/03/2008 3:11:43 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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Thanks.


36 posted on 10/03/2008 3:12:11 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: HappyinAZ
Now, as for us being "naive," please tell us: how much have you read on the topic?

Charles Provan's "the Bible and birth control"??

Humanae Vitae itself?

Martin Luther on birth control?

Mahatma Gandhi on birth control when the Anglicans approved it in 1930?

Read any Germain Grisez?

Read any Janet Smith?

It is typical of liberals that they don't engage a conservative argument intellectually; they merely dismiss its proponents as "naive" or "stupid," or insinuate that they don't "think for themselves".

Sound familiar?

So: tell us your bona fides. What have you read of the intellectual case against contraception?

37 posted on 10/03/2008 3:12:54 PM PDT by Campion
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Thanks x2.


38 posted on 10/03/2008 3:13:24 PM PDT by Campion
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To: HappyinAZ
Nope...more concern for the millions of abject poor that are deprived of birth-contol methods

Test question: what method of family planning costs nothing, is >99% effective, and has been successfully taught to poor women in India?

39 posted on 10/03/2008 3:15:05 PM PDT by Campion
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take a nice visit to the poor of Mexico City

Then may we assume you're pro-abortion, too? Just as effective in "preventing" poor people! Such compassion! /s

40 posted on 10/03/2008 3:16:48 PM PDT by maryz
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